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58. Agreed. I give the Bushes and their allies credit for

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:05 AM

Oct 2019

Donald Trump. They pushed the election fraud envelope without consequences to point where Trump does it openly and brazenly. Getting foreign help and suppressing votes and getting into voting data did not happen for the first time with Trump. Iran-Contra, Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 were just the warm up for what the GOP and Vladimir Putin did for Trump.

on edit: Don't think for one minute that sending our troops into Iraq was to "spread democracy" and protect the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussain. It was for control of the oil fields and a windfall for Haliburton. Difference is, the Bushes hid their personal use of the military behind patriotism and American "values" and morality, etc, while Trump is using the military for his own personal financial gain right out in the open for all to see.

It was inevitable that someone would eventually drop the pretense, because there have been absolutely NO consequences. Example, Bill Barr goes back to early Bush. Not hard to see.

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