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NewJeffCT

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47. The Superdelegate system

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:18 PM

Oct 2019

was accused of rigging the process for Clinton over Obama and Edwards back in 2008 as well - however, Obama went out and won the nomination. Sanders could not do the same in 2016.

The Superdelegate system in place for 2016 was first used in the presidential campaign of 1992 - so, the Democrats managed to win in 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012 and had controversial losses in 2000 and 2016 despite getting more popular votes and a very narrow loss in 2004.

Superdelegates came into being following the tumultuous 1968 campaign, but they were tweaked several times throughout the 70s and 80s until they settled on the 1992 system after the Dukakis embarrassment

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Wasserman Schultz, Democrats did not tilt 2016 primary in Clinton's favor, judicial panel rules [View all] ehrnst Oct 2019 OP

Sanders folks can't prove or provide evidence to support their claims. But we do know that Sanders wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #1

I know I started getting emails from the Sanders campaign in December 2015 ehrnst Oct 2019 #3

The breach was on a Wednesday, my first email from his campaign was on Friday. George II Oct 2019 #21

I'm not disputing your account... tonedevil Oct 2019 #28

This story angle was all wrong... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #2

Bernie was a superdelegate back then. He knew exactly how the system worked when he signed up ehrnst Oct 2019 #4

The Superdelegate system NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #47

Good background. Sanders asked the superdelegates to abuse their Hortensis Oct 2019 #86

I would like to think the ruling would end the argument peggysue2 Oct 2019 #5

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #6

The ruling was rigged! betsuni Oct 2019 #30

Yep, like Colonel Flagg in MASH treestar Oct 2019 #73

To someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #78

There's No Stopper To That Whine Me. Oct 2019 #89

This ruling makes me smile Gothmog Oct 2019 #7

Fuck you, Tim Canova. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2019 #8

.. Cha Oct 2019 #94

Some people just can't let things go. Only two presidential candidates use the "rigged" term. George II Oct 2019 #9

Yep mcar Oct 2019 #20

Correct. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #37

Can someone pls explain why Elizabeth Warren agreed it was rigged? PunkinPi Oct 2019 #64

That's from 2017. Have you heard her say this more recently? Her office phone # is: (202) 224-4543 ehrnst Oct 2019 #66

Not sure why the year matters (but it being 2017 kind of makes it worse, imo)... PunkinPi Oct 2019 #72

Right there, in the video you posted, she was being asked her opinion on Donna Brazile's new book. ehrnst Oct 2019 #76

Fair point re. the context of Brazile's book. However within days of her book's release, PunkinPi Oct 2019 #79

Yes, I hope that we all do due diligence before we speak. However, Warren has shown the ability to ehrnst Oct 2019 #80

Agree with all of your points above. Warren is currently in my top three. nt PunkinPi Oct 2019 #82

She was asked a leading question on the fly, and wasn't as deeply involved in any campaign..... George II Oct 2019 #81

Yes, grateful for this outcome to put it to rest (hopefully). Will be voting blue, as always, and I PunkinPi Oct 2019 #83

No shit. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #10

K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #11

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #12

There absolutely was not "dirty/corrupt and shameful conduct at the DNC." StevieM Oct 2019 #13

No. ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #16

Because you say so? What are your sources or evidence for these smears? ehrnst Oct 2019 #19

This is completely untrue mcar Oct 2019 #22

Let. It. Go. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2019 #14

Tell that to the people who brought this fucked up "lawsuit" obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #25

The decision was today. It's not me who can't let it go. ehrnst Oct 2019 #32

That was a courts decision today. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #40

No I get that. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2019 #71

It's not the party that's keeping this "rigged" myth going. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #91

No one is "picking" any scab. This is signed sealed Cha Oct 2019 #56

That's why people knowing about the court decision now is important. MrsCoffee Oct 2019 #69

Bookmarking because the RIGGED! nonsense is never going away. betsuni Oct 2019 #15

K&R, ***MOST OF DNC & CLINTON ATTACKS WERE FROM RUSSIA!!!*** uponit7771 Oct 2019 #17

This has been obvious since the first claim of "rigged" mcar Oct 2019 #18

Untrue headline as anyone who read the actual decision would know. former9thward Oct 2019 #23

Actually no... ehrnst Oct 2019 #24

Actually yes... former9thward Oct 2019 #26

Which court? There is more than one that has dismissed this bogus lawsuit. ehrnst Oct 2019 #33

And how does that relate to the headline of the OP? former9thward Oct 2019 #52

Nice evasion. Again - it's not my headline, it's the author's. I provided you with his contact info. ehrnst Oct 2019 #77

This lawsuit was a complete farce and had no merit Gothmog Oct 2019 #29

The pleadings may have been poorly written. former9thward Oct 2019 #31

The author of the article/ exec. editor is Jim Saunders. Contact info: ehrnst Oct 2019 #34

You made the headline, you job. former9thward Oct 2019 #54

I copied and pasted the headline. I did not compose it. The author did. See above. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #85

Have you read the opinion? Gothmog Oct 2019 #42

You didn't read it. former9thward Oct 2019 #53

I read and I understood what was in the opinion Gothmog Oct 2019 #57

Yes I am -- are you? former9thward Oct 2019 #65

I am a member of the Bar Gothmog Oct 2019 #75

Good job. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #84

They did not procedurally qualify or treestar Oct 2019 #74

Was this the lawsuit that JPR was so thrilled about? sheshe2 Oct 2019 #41

Yes-there were a number of JPR posters who signed up to be part of the class Gothmog Oct 2019 #43

Thanks. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #44

Thank you for getting it right. HelpImSurrounded Oct 2019 #51

The headline is correct-this lawsuit was complete and utter garbage Gothmog Oct 2019 #59

Read the opinion-this headline is fine Gothmog Oct 2019 #58

Lawsuit rejected over DNC tilt toward Clinton Gothmog Oct 2019 #60

It was a bogus lawsuit to begin with still_one Oct 2019 #27

By some rather bizarre characters... a Seth Rich murder conspiracy nut.. ehrnst Oct 2019 #39

Wow. That speaks volumes still_one Oct 2019 #45

I have been following this Jared Beck idiot for a while and laughing at his pleadings and briefs Gothmog Oct 2019 #62

The issue isn't whether or not she did it, but that she COULD have rocktivity Oct 2019 #35

K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #36

The last gasp of 2016 dies with a whimper Tarc Oct 2019 #38

The paranoia of leaders transfers to their supporters. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #46

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #92

I realize it's about Debbie/DNC but really about Hillary so my post is: UTUSN Oct 2019 #48

amazing... bernie has moved on to the next battle...... Takket Oct 2019 #49

He talked about it June of this year. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #50

Yep. He apparently hasn't gotten past it at all. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #68

BOOKMARKING!!! Anyone disagrees.. Cha Oct 2019 #55

Hi Cha Gothmog Oct 2019 #61

You can still Cha Oct 2019 #63

I won't hold my breath waiting for Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #67

So some are still beating this dead horse Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #70

As expected. This decision affirmed what we always knew. Hortensis Oct 2019 #87

Well duh! Of course it wasn't rigged. There was no breach of law. KPN Oct 2019 #88

So, when you say "whole system is rigged" you are omitting the system by which Democratic POTUS ehrnst Oct 2019 #90

bad headline scipan Oct 2019 #93