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Garrett78

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42. I'm not suggesting that pursuing democracy is immoral.

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 02:24 PM

Oct 2019

I'm saying you can't compromise with those not acting in good faith. The Republican Party isn't merely ethically deficient. They are ethically bankrupt. The likes of Biden, who say there are many really good Republicans, are living in a different era. In Oregon, where I used to live, there are fond memories of Mark Hatfield. Those Republicans are extinct, at least at the federal level.

The real elephant in the room is a broken system. A tyranny of the minority political system that is in need of major structural reform that can't be brought about for the very reasons why reform is so desperately needed. This is an epic problem. For instance, by 2040, nearly 70% of the population will be represented by 30% of the US Senate. This is an anti-democracy.

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Obama calls out 'Woke' culture & Political Purity tests.. [View all] whathehell Oct 2019 OP

I agree completely. Yang stepped forward on this issue, redqueen Oct 2019 #1

It's all about the messenger peggysue2 Oct 2019 #43

So was Bill Maher eissa Oct 2019 #45

Could Not Agree More! PBC_Democrat Oct 2019 #2

+1. The world is not binary dalton99a Oct 2019 #6

Please tell where you're willing to compromise lunatica Oct 2019 #40

That would not even be in play had Donnie Dotard treestar Oct 2019 #59

The Republicans have been working for decades to suppress the vote lunatica Oct 2019 #61

'Woke' is lazy simplistic feel-good bullshit dalton99a Oct 2019 #3

That's pretty binary and dismissive. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #62

Isn't "woke" just the latest term for being politically conscious? brush Oct 2019 #4

Old AA term taken over and corrupted into opposite meaning by misuse. Hortensis Oct 2019 #8

I love that all the right people are shitting bricks of rage right now Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #5

I agree. You can stand up for principles w/o being an uncompromising dick. nolabear Oct 2019 #7

Except that this is what compromise with Republicans looks like: Garrett78 Oct 2019 #9

I didn't hear shit about "compromise." Maru Kitteh Oct 2019 #10

Did you read the article? It's in the first sentence. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #13

He didn't say anything about compromising with the Republican Party. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #17

See reply #20. That short video is only about one aspect of what's in the article. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #22

Why not actually look at the video and read his full quote instead of relying the out-of-context StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #25

Do you really think he was only on that stage for a minute and a half? Garrett78 Oct 2019 #28

Do you really think it's that difficult for you to find proof that he said during that program StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #30

Obama has spoken many times about the need to compromise with Republicans... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #33

LOL. Hauling those goalposts around the field must be exhausting. StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #34

I haven't moved any goalposts. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #36

LOL StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #44

And this was SNL's take on taking "woke"-ing way too far. Hortensis Oct 2019 #12

I'm not talking about wokeness. I'm simply saying you can't compromise with the Republican Party. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #14

He didn't mention compromising with the Republican Party StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #18

The first sentence of the article reads: Garrett78 Oct 2019 #20

Here is the entire quote, not just what the article said he said. Also here's a clip of his comment StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #23

That short clip apparently doesn't cover the entirety of what Obama said, according to the article. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #26

Then why don't you go do some research about "the entirety of what Obama said" before claiming he StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #27

:) Doo-doo-DOO-doo, Doo-doo-DOO-doo? Hortensis Oct 2019 #21

You're not addressing the point I'm making. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #24

Garrett, we're discussing Obama's sincere advice. Hortensis Oct 2019 #41

I'm not suggesting that pursuing democracy is immoral. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #42

Actually, congress has all along been passing bills with Hortensis Oct 2019 #46

FFS. Of course the difference between the parties is enormous. That's the point. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #49

Rec. cwydro Oct 2019 #11

Crickets to that huh? GusBob Oct 2019 #53

Lol. cwydro Oct 2019 #54

I get the impression that DU is pretty tame compared to some of the more wild parts of the web Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #56

Like being called a communist RandiFan1290 Oct 2019 #58

Enthusiastic K & R!!! He's SO GREAT!!! nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #15

We attack our allies too much Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #16

Obama's impulse to 'triangulate' never served him well... ever JCMach1 Oct 2019 #19

I disagree, to a point. Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #29

I now realize I am ancient malaise Oct 2019 #31

Me Too ritapria Oct 2019 #35

I thought the term "woke" was used by the alt-right & incel crowd TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #32

And that's why the Dems lost control and power on state and fed levels while he was president Yavin4 Oct 2019 #37

Now he's doubling down and the crowd still goes wild BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #51

I agree with the message. grumpyduck Oct 2019 #38

The truly pragamatic hear you loud and clear, Mr. President superpatriotman Oct 2019 #39

I get that there are areas where compromise is theoretically possible Bettie Oct 2019 #47

Agreed! My biggest issue with Obama was that he was always trying to Luciferous Oct 2019 #48

Question: How do you compromise with Mitch McConnell? Yavin4 Oct 2019 #50

I hear/read his comments as suggesting we need to compromise among ourselves Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #57

This🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #60

This is like the free speech issue for certain conservatives. BlueWI Oct 2019 #52

If I recall correctly, his farewell speech touched on this subject a little too Sapient Donkey Oct 2019 #55