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In reply to the discussion: Wait... Devin Nunes installed a fake Ukraine expert in the WH to keep the real one away from Trump? [View all]crickets
(25,989 posts)11. Vindman's testimony dovetails with that of Fiona Hill
Apologies NYT is behind a paywall, but the gist is here:
OCT23 White House Aides Feared That Trump Had Another Ukraine Back Channel - Senior national security officials grew concerned about Kash Patel, a colleague who had been involved in Republicans efforts to undermine the Russia investigation.
Fiona Hill, the National Security Councils former senior director for Eurasian and Russian affairs, testified to House investigators last week that she believed Mr. Patel was improperly becoming involved in Ukraine policy and was sending information to Mr. Trump, some of the people said.
Ms. Hill grew alarmed earlier this year when an aide from the White House executive secretarys office told her that Mr. Trump wanted to talk to Mr. Patel and identified him as the National Security Councils Ukraine director, a position held by one of Ms. Hills deputies. The aide said Mr. Trump wanted to meet with Mr. Patel about documents he had received on Ukraine.
Ms. Hill responded by asking who Mr. Patel was. While the aide from the executive secretarys office did not state explicitly that Mr. Patel sent the Ukraine documents to Mr. Trump, Ms. Hill understood that to be the implication, according to a person familiar with her testimony.
Mr. Patels apparent communications with the president prompted Ms. Hill to raise concerns with her superiors, including John R. Bolton, then the national security adviser, that Mr. Patel was meddling outside his portfolio. As early as May, Ms. Hill had begun discussing with colleagues her concerns about whether Mr. Patel was running a shadow effort on Ukraine at the White House, according to four people briefed on the discussions.
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Mr. Patel joined the National Security Council in February and began getting involved in Ukraine matters in April, as Mr. Giuliani pushed the Ukrainian government to discredit evidence against Paul Manafort, Mr. Trumps former campaign chairman. It was not clear who hired him.
Ms. Hill grew alarmed earlier this year when an aide from the White House executive secretarys office told her that Mr. Trump wanted to talk to Mr. Patel and identified him as the National Security Councils Ukraine director, a position held by one of Ms. Hills deputies. The aide said Mr. Trump wanted to meet with Mr. Patel about documents he had received on Ukraine.
Ms. Hill responded by asking who Mr. Patel was. While the aide from the executive secretarys office did not state explicitly that Mr. Patel sent the Ukraine documents to Mr. Trump, Ms. Hill understood that to be the implication, according to a person familiar with her testimony.
Mr. Patels apparent communications with the president prompted Ms. Hill to raise concerns with her superiors, including John R. Bolton, then the national security adviser, that Mr. Patel was meddling outside his portfolio. As early as May, Ms. Hill had begun discussing with colleagues her concerns about whether Mr. Patel was running a shadow effort on Ukraine at the White House, according to four people briefed on the discussions.
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Mr. Patel joined the National Security Council in February and began getting involved in Ukraine matters in April, as Mr. Giuliani pushed the Ukrainian government to discredit evidence against Paul Manafort, Mr. Trumps former campaign chairman. It was not clear who hired him.
It's becoming clear now that Devin Nunes is likely responsible for 'hiring' Patel.
The 'position held by one of Ms. Hills deputies' that Patel usurped would be that of Lt Col Vindman.
Unbelieveable. A rogue group of people just pushed the real staff out of the way and started freestyling. And we're all just supposed to be okay with this?
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Wait... Devin Nunes installed a fake Ukraine expert in the WH to keep the real one away from Trump? [View all]
DetlefK
Oct 2019
OP
So Nunes is in neck deep. It almost sounds like a conspiracy with others in the White House.
TheBlackAdder
Oct 2019
#1
Does not matter who's the expert really, since rump, alone, can do it all (sarcasm here)...
SWBTATTReg
Oct 2019
#5