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Hortensis

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84. Yes, but as you recognize, there IS a lot of this shit.

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:58 PM

Nov 2019

I'm the wife of a Jew here; I held the door open that she was too ignorant to know how mistaken and offensive she was the first time, but I have good ears for this shit that's just been continuing.

A MN congresswoman has no NEED to make yet another snide public comment about a NY Jew. With her record, of course unnecessary hits at distant Jews are going to grab attention. We really should wonder if that isn't exactly it. She's not stupid.

Notably, she's of course running for reelection, and support among Democrats in her district who voted happily for a pretty Somali American Muslim just a year ago is understandably weakening. A lot of small donors nationally are sending her money and she's well funded, but they can't vote. The only way to replace lost Democratic votes would be with others in her district.

My best guess is this hit was a two-fer, that she's trying to both secure those on the farther left with the billionaire part and also some more conservative, and specifically antisemitic, voters with the Jew part. Especially when you consider that antisemitism has risen and is motivating many on the far left. Not among all by any means, but...a two-fer.

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Ilhan Omar tweet called anti-Semitic 'dog whistle' [View all] OldRed2450 Nov 2019 OP

Yup absolutely nycbos Nov 2019 #1

Nope, not absolutely. bitterross Nov 2019 #105

Because she uses anti-semtic dog whistles. nycbos Nov 2019 #123

It's not her first time. George II Nov 2019 #145

Exactly nycbos Nov 2019 #146

So, EVERYTHING she says now is an anti-Semitic dog whistle? bitterross Nov 2019 #183

That's not what I said or even implied, but whatever. George II Nov 2019 #184

Well, that sure is the way it came across. bitterross Nov 2019 #185

Pretty much ck4829 Nov 2019 #256

Also don't forget the time she called Stephen Miller a white nationalist ck4829 Nov 2019 #255

It's not her first time. I'm disappointed in her. Hekate Nov 2019 #182

BS Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #126

And we know who controls all the money in the world, right? George II Nov 2019 #137

So when anyone goes after billionaires, they're engaging in anti-Semitism? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #140

Sometimes there's a pattern: George II Nov 2019 #147

It isn't remotely controversial that many members Imperialism Inc. Nov 2019 #161

Your words Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #152

Well: George II Nov 2019 #155

Not the same tweet Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #178

You should add the sarcasm thingie leftieNanner Nov 2019 #164

Because billionaire sociopaths don't have common interests, ronnie624 Nov 2019 #2

Are you saying that Mike Bloomberg is a sociopath? lapucelle Nov 2019 #12

Anyone who values 'wealth' over the health of human society, is a sociopath. ronnie624 Nov 2019 #33

You didn't answer the question. Loki Liesmith Nov 2019 #91

For context... lapucelle Nov 2019 #93

Says who? ronnie624 Nov 2019 #129

... lapucelle Nov 2019 #135

I don't consider that organization's opinion ronnie624 Nov 2019 #175

On the Issue's analyses are criteria-referenced, data-based, and standardized lapucelle Nov 2019 #191

those graphs are as useful as tits on a bull Celerity Nov 2019 #224

so, donating 10 of millions in support of gun control NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #98

And Bloomberg is to the left of Rep. Omar, as is Joe Biden. lapucelle Nov 2019 #101

How do you know that Bloomberg "values 'wealth' over the health of human society"? George II Nov 2019 #133

That's a pretty bold claim RhodeIslandOne Nov 2019 #223

Anyone who would institute Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #154

That policy doesn't fit the definition of "sociopathic", and Bloomberg didn't institute it. N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #159

Yes he did Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #179

The policy began in the 1960's and became formalized in the 1980's. lapucelle Nov 2019 #193

When it began is irrelevant Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #194

If when the policy started it irrelevant, why argue the point? lapucelle Nov 2019 #200

He still continued it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #202

And he ended it. lapucelle Nov 2019 #203

And Bloomberg helped keep Bush Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #204

... lapucelle Nov 2019 #205

Of course you're ignoring the 11 years Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #206

I'm responding to the erroneous assertions that Mike Bloomberg started "stop and frisk", lapucelle Nov 2019 #207

He didn't put Bush in the White House Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #208

False narratives about "evil" Democratic candidates helped put both men in office. lapucelle Nov 2019 #209

Oh so it is OK to detain protesters if it didn't help re-elect Bush? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #212

Wait...what? Why would you say such a thing? Why on earth would you think that's OK? lapucelle Nov 2019 #213

Then why did you ask for data? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #214

Because you made a claim unsupported by any evidence. lapucelle Nov 2019 #215

So why did Bloomberg detain protesters during the GOP convention Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #217

Do you have any evidence to support your claim? lapucelle Nov 2019 #218

Nice diversion Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #219

None of those links support your claims that the detention of protestors helped Bush's re-election lapucelle Nov 2019 #220

Stop denying reality Lindsey Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #225

Where is support for your claim that Bloomberg held a 6:00 am hearing? lapucelle Nov 2019 #221

Please Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #226

I'm a Democrat who has lived in NY my whole life. Facts matter. lapucelle Nov 2019 #222

Not talking points Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #227

If what you claim is fact based, please provide the facts that back up your talking points. lapucelle Nov 2019 #232

Not talking points Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #235

Where are the facts that support your talking points? What is the source of these talking points? lapucelle Nov 2019 #236

Not talking points Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #237

If it is indeed a reality, you'll of course provide objective data/evidence to support it? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #238

I did Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #239

Did you just say that I worship a racist? lapucelle Nov 2019 #240

No you did Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #248

Did you just say that I don't accept your opinion as a fact because I worship a racist? lapucelle Nov 2019 #241

looks that way, and they appear to be trying to insinuate they know you Celerity Nov 2019 #242

I thought it might be a reference to Mayor Lindsay, but he's been dead fo 20 years. lapucelle Nov 2019 #244

I had to look that up, he was mayor mostly before my parents were born, lol Celerity Nov 2019 #245

On the old Batman TV series in the 60's, he was parodied as "Mayor Linseed". lapucelle Nov 2019 #246

wow! that is so cool! Celerity Nov 2019 #247

No you don't accept facts Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #249

The fact is that you said I worship a racist. Why are you denying the fact that you said that? lapucelle Nov 2019 #250

You do Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #253

I don't accept opinion-based talking points as facts. It is a fact you claimed I worship a racist. lapucelle Nov 2019 #251

Again not talking points Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #254

He ruined New York City schools. roody Nov 2019 #230

Link? N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #231

The woman who endorsed a Jewish man for president is accused of an "anti-Semitic dog whistle" StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #3

and trump's son in law is Jewish so of course he isn't any/Semitic, still_one Nov 2019 #7

You do know the difference between the two situations, right? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #11

I know the difference in the TWO situations. I also know her previous comments, which in my view still_one Nov 2019 #26

So, because both men are Jewish and both are billionaires, she must specifically note that StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #30

Make all the excuses you want, but do you happen to be Jewish? still_one Nov 2019 #31

Lol. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2019 #50

Why do you find that to be funny? Cary Nov 2019 #56

Logical fallacies are humorous to me.n/t ronnie624 Nov 2019 #59

I don't see a logical fallacy Cary Nov 2019 #63

Of course that's what you "see". n/t ronnie624 Nov 2019 #68

What does that mean? Cary Nov 2019 #73

It means I think you "see" antisemitism, where none is in evidence. n/t ronnie624 Nov 2019 #80

Not too condescending, eh? Cary Nov 2019 #95

It isn't a 'logical fallacy'. The question is based on one's personal experience. And a person's still_one Nov 2019 #81

Laughing when asked if he or she was Jewish says it all Cary Nov 2019 #97

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #76

Yes... She should point that out... Dorian Gray Nov 2019 #252

Actually trump's daughter converted to Judaism. George II Nov 2019 #134

I know George. Which in my view doesn't mean she "likes Jews either" Regardless, I went back and still_one Nov 2019 #139

I appreciate and admire your willingness to say you think you were mistaken and change your mind StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #142

Thanks Starfish, but I was wrong, and from my perspective it is NOT anti-semitic. She is referring still_one Nov 2019 #149

Exactly. And you're correct, it's subtle but definitely not ambiguous. George II Nov 2019 #144

This is a poor excuse OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #10

No, it's not StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #15

I am Jewish, so please don't lecture to me that because someone endorsed someone who is Jewish still_one Nov 2019 #29

As a black woman, I don't need to be lectured to by anyone about prejudice StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #40

I am NOT lecturing you. You are lecturing ME. Now you are changing course, and say how you still_one Nov 2019 #46

You make is sound like a contest as to whose people have been more suppressed. Cary Nov 2019 #61

+++ vsrazdem Nov 2019 #69

And this is the same guy that cried over Warren's wealth tax proposal melman Nov 2019 #75

So she's anti-semitic because she doesn't like billionaires Beringia Nov 2019 #41

No. It was pointed out to me that her tweet specified it was because he is a still_one Nov 2019 #94

+ 1,000 Cary Nov 2019 #58

Oh FFS, quit promoting right-wing bullshit. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #110

Omar doesn't have very good political instincts, I'm afraid. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #27

Actually I have to edit this post because I didn't see her tweet where she does specify it is still_one Nov 2019 #35

Unless you live in her district, Igel Nov 2019 #67

I do live in her district. That was my point. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #71

Yes. Completely agree. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #88

He might be Jewish, but he's not pro-Israel Polybius Nov 2019 #45

Being pro or anti this or that government is not anti semitic JonLP24 Nov 2019 #118

Refute This Logic, If You Dare corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #121

I don't know that she meant it to be anti-semitic. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #4

Considering the candidate she's endorsing in the same race is Jewish StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #5

That's a very good point. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #9

Except this is not a one off OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #13

I'm sure the right wing Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #14

I'm sure Jewish people OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #17

I don't believe it's anti-Semitic. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #19

So, she's never supposed to say anything a out anyone who happens to be Jewish? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #20

This ain't it. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2019 #6

Because both are rich men mshasta Nov 2019 #8

That's how any sane person reads it. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #23

I have no idea who Leon Cooperman is so I'd assume since she said billionaires she Vinca Nov 2019 #16

She didn't say billionaires OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #18

I guess we are all too stupid it get it, so she has to just come out and use the specific word ExciteBike66 Nov 2019 #24

Why? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #25

Jewish activist are very upset. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #28

I guess Linda Sarsour would know still_one Nov 2019 #48

Yep. that is who gives her cover. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #53

That is exactly the point. Why didn't she make that distinction? She should know by now she has a still_one Nov 2019 #38

She didn't need to. The tweet she quotes says it. It's right there in her tweet StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #55

Her tweet included a remark by someone else about billionaires. Fat cats stick together. Vinca Nov 2019 #106

Omar's Tweet was about the money & the corruption that ordinarily accompanies it dlk Nov 2019 #21

This. FFS, people, quit falling for right-wing/Russian propaganda that's designed to divide us. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #113

Thank you StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #114

Exactly dlk Nov 2019 #128

Why do I give a shit what Josh Jordan's opinion is? jberryhill Nov 2019 #22

Jesus Fucking Christ ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #32

If she had just spelled out the "billionaire's club", it would have been a non-issue. If she still_one Nov 2019 #39

That I agree with. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #57

The tweet she quoted refers to him as a billionaire. StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #62

I know. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #66

Maybe be their religion wasn't even on her mind StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #70

Probably not. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #85

That presents it in another light, and I missed that Twitter link in the OP until you still_one Nov 2019 #83

I don't want him running either StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #102

We are definitely on the same page there Starfish. I also appreciate you pointing out the twitter still_one Nov 2019 #125

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2019 #77

Who does Jordan mean by "everyone"? Because I'd never heard of Cooperman, would have no idea 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #34

Josh Jordan's tweet seems daft and grasping. LaurenOlimina Nov 2019 #36

What a bunch of horse shit melman Nov 2019 #37

Really? still_one Nov 2019 #42

Yes melman Nov 2019 #52

Clear sign of a "right wing asshole"...... George II Nov 2019 #136

No he is not! OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #44

Thank you. She's repulsive. grossproffit Nov 2019 #196

You're welcome. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #198

You smearing Josh Jordan with a LIE OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #47

yup still_one Nov 2019 #51

Seems you are much more invested in a nobody jberryhill Nov 2019 #60

Where's the lie? melman Nov 2019 #64

Can you prove he is a right winger? OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #74

Twitter sure seems to think he is melman Nov 2019 #78

That's not prof of anything. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #79

lol no it doesn't melman Nov 2019 #87

I like Omar's YMALs more than Jordan's BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #157

It's the ol' "rich guy" dog whistle, plain and simple. George II Nov 2019 #131

There is no such thing melman Nov 2019 #156

No such thing? Hardly.... George II Nov 2019 #163

Jeez, that's a stupid reach. Bok_Tukalo Nov 2019 #43

"Leon Copperman says he will support fellow billionaire Mike Bloomberg". Yavin4 Nov 2019 #49

Yes, but as you recognize, there IS a lot of this shit. Hortensis Nov 2019 #84

She's my representative. I don't know whether, in her heart, she's an anti-Semite. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #99

Thanks for the first-person view from a thoughtful observer Hortensis Nov 2019 #122

The "fellow" in that comment she's quoting actually doesn't help kcr Nov 2019 #115

This is idiotic. johnp3907 Nov 2019 #54

Oh bullshit. jcmaine72 Nov 2019 #65

Three words. Turbineguy Nov 2019 #72

MEANWHILE: Trump blows anti-Semitic BLOWHORN Maru Kitteh Nov 2019 #82

That book jacket is clearly missing the SS symbol. Initech Nov 2019 #120

Sounds like he's reaching a little on that one. n/t Crunchy Frog Nov 2019 #86

I missed it the first time, but if you look at her teeet she is attacking him because he is a still_one Nov 2019 #90

Stretch .... obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2019 #89

That charge is ABSURD. ENOUGH with the twisting and manipulating. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2019 #92

BS. mn9driver Nov 2019 #96

Because there's nothing wrong w/coloring literally everything a Muslim says & does as anti-Semitic. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #100

There it is ... StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #103

This is exactly what's going on here. johnp3907 Nov 2019 #109

The right wing echo chamber is like putting the same phrase through Google translator a lot. Initech Nov 2019 #130

She opens herself up to criticism OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #141

You know how you can tell you're talking to a bigot, don't you? BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #160

I criticize Israel all the time OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #165

I have no way of knowing that. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #166

Go back & read your own quote. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #168

You should read this article. OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #169

So, what you posted wasn't accurate, is what you're saying? BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #171

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #186

Bullshit, she's calling out the billionaire class. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #104

Ratf#cking StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #107

Yep, we don't march lockstep like pukes BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #124

My thought was... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #108

Bernie last night railed against Bloomberg using his money to buy his buy his way into the race StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #116

ugh.... She is a evertonfc Nov 2019 #111

Nothing but right-wing whataboutism. And complete bullshit. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #112

I don't know why people keep reaching when it comes to Omar JonLP24 Nov 2019 #117

Yeah exactly don't feed the trolls. Just block / report and move on. Initech Nov 2019 #119

Slow news day IOW BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #127

Mr. Fantastic level stretch right here ck4829 Nov 2019 #132

Sorry, no. And I think the claim against Omar is racist. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #138

Really? OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #143

Don't take it personally. All you did was post someone else's tweet. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #148

I hope that is the case OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #150

only one of the four reasons you gave could be considered anti- semetic. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #176

What did the tweet say? LAS14 Nov 2019 #151

"I wonder why" Hav Nov 2019 #158

OK, thanks much. I had been thinking about "benjamins" and stuff. Yeah, LAS14 Nov 2019 #162

stupid tweet Skittles Nov 2019 #172

If Omar takes a deep breath, there will be someone judging it ck4829 Nov 2019 #174

and maybe she can also be more savvy with her tweets Skittles Nov 2019 #243

Raises Omar's publicity profile up towards AOC, both thank rw media empedocles Nov 2019 #153

It's just interesting... ck4829 Nov 2019 #170

josh jordan (who ever that is) and evey single person agreeing with him are going to Kurt V. Nov 2019 #173

Jordan is a RWer who doesn't like Rump which apparently nowadays is enough to justify Celerity Nov 2019 #229

Oh, bullshit. Tomorrow it'll be "red socialism!" Followed by "un-Christian!" VOX Nov 2019 #177

My take? Lunabell Nov 2019 #180

Because they're both billionaires catrose Nov 2019 #181

Exactly! DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #192

Nice try! Iggo Nov 2019 #187

The tweet she replies to mentions the money. Why are we inserting something else? NCLefty Nov 2019 #188

Omar should stay off Twitter Lexblues Nov 2019 #189

Her staying off Twitter won't address the framing of the issue ck4829 Nov 2019 #190

Two wrongs don't make a right OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #199

Three words about billionaires isn't the same as conspiracy theories getting people killed ck4829 Nov 2019 #210

You don't think her rhetoric OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #211

That's a stretch and you know it... Blue_Tires Nov 2019 #195

She has not earned any benefit of the doubt on this issue. tritsofme Nov 2019 #197

Ms. Omar, please saidsimplesimon Nov 2019 #201

Isn't it racist to interpret everything she says as anti-semitic? ecstatic Nov 2019 #216

+1 ck4829 Nov 2019 #234

why the hell are you posting RWer Josh Jordan on DU? Celerity Nov 2019 #228

+1 BeckyDem Nov 2019 #233