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17. You are correct!
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:25 PM
Nov 2019

To me there is a list of "perfect storms" brewing and you could fill a couple pages about the ELE alone, so it is far beyond mere speculation.

It is rather gloomy and doomy. I have had a few discussions with people that have investigated and then grappled with the rather convincing evidence to this effect. We tend to agree that, due to the late states we are in, it is best for those who know enough to try to mitigate the impact on their lives and deal with the psychological impacts that will have. Conversely, I tend to leave anyone living in a bubble about it to whatever comforts them for now concerning all this. Sometimes it is just too big and complex to explain something that should already be clearly evident in the mainstream of society, facts and all.

The result? Well, those who are aware and grapple with it may have long, slow slog to the results, but they can prepare themselves and adapt as best as possible. Those who need to protect themselves mentally and emotionally will be better off over the short-term, but very susceptible to the eruptions and sudden shocks when it is on their doorstep, so to speak. There are pros and cons to both approaches on the individual level and collectively. There was a window of opportunity to really prevent this, but it is rapidly closing.

So, yes, the cold hard truth is quite disturbing and I just wanted to note one perspective on the two ways of looking at it at this stage and in regards to dealing with others. However, this all may be a ravaging cycle of changes and there are so many variables that I still can retain some optimism that pertains to potentials for either dealing with this better in the short-term or some sort of reversal in the far future, which all depends on the troubling question as to how far our species, (and the rest of the interdependent biosphere and its creatures) will make it. It seems to me that mitigating the effects of it all is even being given the priority it deserves now that stopping it or reversing it has become less viable.

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How America Ends [View all] Newest Reality Nov 2019 OP
Or, maybe, it is How America Begins Again. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #1
That's optimistic. Newest Reality Nov 2019 #4
Do not forget Lyndon Johnson on the good side! nt Celerity Nov 2019 #9
This is not the first time we've been through this. The worst was what led up to the civil war... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #2
So glad to be old. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #3
Great read. I'd seen someone reference it in another thread. Thanks. underpants Nov 2019 #5
It is a good read, though I'm only a little more than halfway through, but... Garrett78 Nov 2019 #6
:) Reports of our death have been greatly exaggerated. Hortensis Nov 2019 #12
Buckley, the bigot who called himself a libertarian and conservative... Garrett78 Nov 2019 #14
Well, take heart. MOST people don't see those they share Hortensis Nov 2019 #16
You talk about "an aspect of conservatism that still lives within people." Garrett78 Nov 2019 #19
I think they're referring to "tradition" in the article. Arthur_Frain Nov 2019 #21
the Deplorables are the assholes who just cannot accept or adapt to change Skittles Nov 2019 #7
All empires die. roamer65 Nov 2019 #8
I think it's pretty damn important who we elect in 2020, even if the US Empire is collapsing. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #10
As far as suffering, you haven't seen anything yet. roamer65 Nov 2019 #11
You are correct! Newest Reality Nov 2019 #17
At best it will be a massive population crash. roamer65 Nov 2019 #22
All the more reason to get sane people in power, so as to mitigate the damage. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #20
I think that we will be ok. Blue_true Nov 2019 #13
2 major problems: Garrett78 Nov 2019 #15
Yes, and a new variable... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #18
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