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H2O Man

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47. Cults are curious,
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 10:07 PM
Nov 2019

and frequently dangerous to their members and others. I remember talking about the Jim Jones thing with Rubin Carter. And we discussed crowds, since we both had experiences in the ring, being surrounded by such organisms.

I remember that Lennon decided to have the Beatles stop touring, in large part from his experience of witnessing how he could influence it to make a wave by merely moving his guitar. Certainly a strange experience, especially if one had taken some LSD. Jim Morrison did some experiments with crowds, too, though alcohol eventually got in the way.

Cults are much like a crowd (some are small, some large), but with the added influences that you note. I don't know if Trump has actually studied cults, but he has certainly used his knowledge of crowds -- including the televison audience -- to his best benefit. But now he is faltering, knows he is not up to the presidency, and wants to do the most harm to our country before he is removed from office. As a narcissist, he will think he can control the crowds of his followers. But there, too, he will not be up to his fantasies. But a lot of people will likely suffer as a result.

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Yup. "they all do it" is simply unbelievably lazy, isn't it? NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #1
Right. H2O Man Nov 2019 #2
bribery, according the the trumpkin in my life, who happens to be mopinko Nov 2019 #3
He obviously doesn't know H2O Man Nov 2019 #4
yeah, he also thinks it takes a crime to impeach. mopinko Nov 2019 #13
Sounds dreadful. I have expelled all Republicans from my bubble. NCLefty Nov 2019 #21
well, it's touchy. mopinko Nov 2019 #24
I'm going to make a note of your points. Thanks!❤ Karadeniz Nov 2019 #5
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You nailed it malaise Nov 2019 #6
Outstanding op-ed! H2O Man Nov 2019 #12
It complements your OP malaise Nov 2019 #25
What we do know is likely the tip of the iceberg coeur_de_lion Nov 2019 #29
Yep malaise Nov 2019 #31
I agree. H2O Man Nov 2019 #45
A lady in my town coeur_de_lion Nov 2019 #7
yup. that's exactly what they are selling this week. mopinko Nov 2019 #14
I've likely told you H2O Man Nov 2019 #15
No talking to this one I'm afraid coeur_de_lion Nov 2019 #26
She's no Hitler... paleotn Nov 2019 #23
I feel badly for her coeur_de_lion Nov 2019 #27
I do too. paleotn Nov 2019 #30
I think it will take coeur_de_lion Nov 2019 #53
Bringing it closer to home helps a lot too. lunatica Nov 2019 #8
Great point! H2O Man Nov 2019 #34
Yes. It has to feel personal or they don't get it lunatica Nov 2019 #50
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I've used the term lunatica Nov 2019 #51
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Cults are curious, H2O Man Nov 2019 #47
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Can't argue with that. H2O Man Nov 2019 #55
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True. H2O Man Nov 2019 #56
That's a useful life-lesson, in my opinion. :) malthaussen Nov 2019 #57
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That's what Elders do, eh? malthaussen Nov 2019 #62
I resent it bitterly too. How DARE they. But they are deeply paranoid. nolabear Nov 2019 #59
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2019 #61
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