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In reply to the discussion: Occupy's tactics are hurting their message and the left [View all]Aerows
(39,961 posts)179. I think it is closer than we dared dream of
And that is causing push back, because the upper echelons do not want democracy to have such power. If we can strike, and demand wages, well, we might be able to demand anything - like health care and a society that isn't subservient to the ultra-wealthy. We can't have that.
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But thankfully there have been people's movements that do represent and advance those views
deutsey
Dec 2011
#54
No. Post Kennedy assassination there was the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid
TheWraith
Dec 2011
#47
At least Nixon understood economics better than today's pols & how it related to national security.
ieoeja
Dec 2011
#90
He still didn't have to sign it. We have the process for a purpose. Make them do it.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#168
Yes, he did. Nobody issues a veto they know will be overridden just for shits and giggles.
TheWraith
Dec 2011
#262
With all respect, you are blubbering. First of all OWS has a 56% popularity.
rhett o rick
Dec 2011
#194
Can you cite a source fo rthe 56% popularity? I have read that support has dropped in recent days
BoWanZi
Dec 2011
#238
What methods do you think we should use to draw the attention of the busy public
JDPriestly
Dec 2011
#163
I have met the type of person you speak of and sadly they are union members who do not understand...
unapatriciated
Dec 2011
#220
I'm not sure which unions see this as disruptive or unnecessary but....
unapatriciated
Dec 2011
#214
+1 The more OWS continues developing and (importantly) acting out a counter-narrative
deutsey
Dec 2011
#15
For 50+ years the reactionary right shoved the narrative toward their side...
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#46
the numbers are 70% for single payer/real public option, 70% for Medicare and Social Security
MisterP
Dec 2011
#45
What tactics? I hope they go even further than shutting down ports, if that was what you were
sadge goddess
Dec 2011
#14
When I click my ruby slippers together, there eventually appears a magical hide thread function...
Fire Walk With Me
Dec 2011
#30
that's bullshit. Americans are quite liberal -- they just don't call themselves that
Remember Me
Dec 2011
#202
If you want to find an anarchistic movement, look to the Chicago School of Economics,
JDPriestly
Dec 2011
#172
I am more familiar with Chomsky's work in linguistics than with his work in politics.
JDPriestly
Dec 2011
#259
Exactly what 'left' do you think OWS is hurting? As far as I'm concerned, the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2011
#53
So, OWS is supposed to be watching the polls and steering its actions accordingly...
AntiFascist
Dec 2011
#68
Very good points. The corporate media presstitutes are deliberately minimizing Occupy.
backscatter712
Dec 2011
#158
Well, you obviously aren't watching because the tactics are in fact evolving.
AntiFascist
Dec 2011
#189
Got anything more recent than a month-old poll to indicate OWS losing support?
MilesColtrane
Dec 2011
#70
"The port shutdown was an over-reaching bust." - I have to take issue with that, as
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2011
#115
+1 The 1% and their mouthpieces are out in force and are desperate to destroy the Occupy movement.
Zorra
Dec 2011
#122
that's rather presumptuous. it seems to me, that anyone who doesn't agree 100% with OWS tactics here
dionysus
Dec 2011
#165
Yes. The "tactic" was used to popularize the concept. It worked for a bit, then became stale.
MADem
Dec 2011
#255
let's see if they can pull it off. you need tens of millions of people to pull off a general strike,
dionysus
Dec 2011
#159
These are excellent ideas. Are you anywhere near an Occupy encampment?
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2011
#118
How many times has Bill O'Reilly proclaimed the death of the Occupy movement now?
backscatter712
Dec 2011
#104
This isn't a popularity contest - it's about doing what's right - and changing the world
slay
Dec 2011
#111
i don't know about hurting their message or, not, but reading this thread... if you don't think
dionysus
Dec 2011
#156
Yes, I've read through the entire thread, and I get that sense as well. Either support OWS 100% -
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#173
ironically, that kind of stuff is pretty counter productive to growing the movement, isn't it?
dionysus
Dec 2011
#174
Yep, just caught that. I normally don't check to see who has reccd a thread,
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#254
Give me a gung ho and radicalized 30% over any tepid and conflicted majority, no matter how large.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#190
Those concern trolls were saying the same thing during the Civil Rights Movement
alp227
Dec 2011
#191
Occupying public parks is exactly what put OWS on the map and in play.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2011
#222
That's not important..What great movement was EVER popular in its early days?
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2011
#225
the media's portrayal of them have made them less popular with the American people
SemperEadem
Dec 2011
#240
Bullshit! Rightwing, teabagger and WS propaganda poll. I can't believe people would...
golddigger
Dec 2011
#241
Archaeology issue Jan/Feb2012 recalls press from 1900s-sounds EXACTLY LIKE YOU
StarsInHerHair
Dec 2011
#244
The Occupy movement has been successful because they represent the 99%. A few former tea partiers,
applegrove
Dec 2011
#268