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bigbrother05

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30. He wanted HRC as damaged as possible, a GOP victory was an unforeseen windfall

Reply to triron (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 21, 2019, 01:07 PM

Nov 2019

Putin wants to undermine the West and anything that sows chaos in the US suits his purposes. To that end, Brexit and meddling in EU elections are part of the same plan.

He wants the West confused, distrustful, and internally belligerent to enhance his opportunities to consolidate power with minimal cost. His ascendance in the ME was done with minimal effort because Trump is set on braking the alliances set against Russia.

If Hillary were in office, the GOP and Trumpanistas would be fighting everything she proposed and we still might have openings on the SCOTUS and throughout the federal courts.

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I am perplexed by this statement of Dr. Hill. What did she mean? [View all] triron Nov 2019 OP

Trump and his boot lickers are being used and since they are just paranoid and stupid enough... Thomas Hurt Nov 2019 #1

The real question is: Is Trump and crew innocent dupes of Russian trickery.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #3

There is no functional difference jberryhill Nov 2019 #5

THIS Mike 03 Nov 2019 #6

Putin wants to make the Presidency untrustworthy, by making trump sabotage the U.S. Presidency. LuvLoogie Nov 2019 #2

This would be confusing to someone who thinks the Russian's longterm or primary aim... jberryhill Nov 2019 #4

Helping Trump was a single step in a long term plan... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #8

Yes. It's easy to forget that Russia not only supported Trump, they supported other people at Mike 03 Nov 2019 #10

Mainly to defeat Hillary Clinton imo. Putin hated her. triron Nov 2019 #16

He wanted HRC as damaged as possible, a GOP victory was an unforeseen windfall bigbrother05 Nov 2019 #30

Which is why... jberryhill Nov 2019 #17

Those may be true facts generally but they are not primary in why Russia is trying to blame Ukraine mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #7

I totally agree! n/t MFGsunny Nov 2019 #12

This! rusty fender Nov 2019 #26

Putin is pissed off that Hillary Clinton questioned the legitimacy of Russian elections, meadowlander Nov 2019 #9

Yep. triron Nov 2019 #19

Trump is an agent of destabilization for them. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #11

divide et impera pecosbob Nov 2019 #13

Russia is doing this in Europe as well. Yavin4 Nov 2019 #14

...and Gilets Jaunes jberryhill Nov 2019 #15

It is fairly simple. Caliman73 Nov 2019 #18

Bottom line is Trump would do his bidding. Hillary clearly would not have. triron Nov 2019 #22

Yes. Caliman73 Nov 2019 #29

Delegitimize the Presidency as an office, not an assault on Trump himself. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #20

Seems rather clear. H2O Man Nov 2019 #21

Oh come on. Don't propagate this 'both-sidism' narrative. Clearly democrats support Ukraine triron Nov 2019 #24

No shit. H2O Man Nov 2019 #28

Don't you love it when... jberryhill Nov 2019 #31

I can appreciate H2O Man Nov 2019 #32

My take is to weaken western nations in general Roland99 Nov 2019 #23

Agree but I still don't get why she phrased hed answer the way she did. triron Nov 2019 #25

Probably just to be generic and diplomatic Roland99 Nov 2019 #27

Ok I see what you mean. Thanks. triron Nov 2019 #34

The Russians know we are vigilant now, watching their every move to lunatica Nov 2019 #33