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Cal Carpenter

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17. "..so many deaths..."???

Tue Nov 26, 2019, 02:29 PM

Nov 2019

Not true at all. Aside from a recent series of (statistically insignificant, but tragic) deaths due to adulterated black-market THC vape liquid (ie something that is not inherent in vaping), and a tiny number of injuries and deaths from exploded vaping devices (mostly modified by the user, against manufacturer advice), vaping is not killing people. It is, however, saving smokers from the potentially fatal harm of smoking tobacco. It is agreed by most health and science experts to be 95% harm reduction from smoking tobacco.

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, and your claims sound akin to climate change denial in how dangerously incorrect they are.

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There's something terribly wrong': Americans are dying young at alarming rates [View all] Ohiogal Nov 2019 OP

Opioid and drug related captain queeg Nov 2019 #1

Obesity Too DanieRains Nov 2019 #39

Hell, here in VA a friend of a friend's wife died (heart attack) and the widower's neighbors Nay Nov 2019 #53

Opiods. Legalize pot, shitloads of money come in, what's the problem? shenmue Nov 2019 #2

I know right. Those that are running for president and dewsgirl Nov 2019 #4

Pot is not going to replace opioids. People can get pot now. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #28

Not legally in most places TheFarseer Nov 2019 #59

Legally in most places. former9thward Nov 2019 #64

Damn, didn't realize it was that many states TheFarseer Nov 2019 #73

I have known at least 5 people personally, that have died dewsgirl Nov 2019 #3

I know know of two people that have died BigMin28 Nov 2019 #5

Even if you can afford health care FakeNoose Nov 2019 #9

Absolutely! Ohiogal Nov 2019 #27

That's a key factor not highlighted (mentioned?) in the report. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #25

America's best health care system in the world.... Raster Nov 2019 #43

You have mentioned in your post Raster, perhaps the saddest thing about this country: Stuart G Nov 2019 #74

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So true BigMin28 Nov 2019 #63

Sincerely sorry about your brother at140 Nov 2019 #69

According to the article Ohiogal Nov 2019 #6

Hans Selye's General Adaptation Syndrome The_jackalope Nov 2019 #20

Although the point is valid, the study actually said 53 million workers Hoyt Nov 2019 #21

Yup that's 23.3 million workers in America making KPN Nov 2019 #48

I live in Indiana. Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #7

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Of the family of 9 down the street, 3 of the boys have died from addictions. lark Nov 2019 #8

Important info in that article BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #10

This subject is one of utmost importance to me. Ohiogal Nov 2019 #12

Vaping seems like a very bad idea FakeNoose Nov 2019 #11

it didn't. and it doesn't (nt) stopdiggin Nov 2019 #14

"..so many deaths..."??? Cal Carpenter Nov 2019 #17

Ah, no... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #19

You have serious misconceptions about vaping's impact nt coti Nov 2019 #29

How many deaths has vaping caused? nt. Mariana Nov 2019 #41

49 this year. Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #47

American white supremacy + American capitalism equals a lot of hurting people. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2019 #15

IMHO, we're starting to see Soviet-style malaise. Coventina Nov 2019 #16

I really fear for what kind of world Ohiogal Nov 2019 #26

Our kids bdamomma Nov 2019 #81

I agree...+1000000 roamer65 Nov 2019 #72

I have a friend whose son died at 34. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2019 #18

My husband is president of a nonprofit organization. MontanaMama Nov 2019 #22

That something wrong is called republican fascism. nt yaesu Nov 2019 #23

yes, such a thing does not allow hope for the future. Also social demigoddess Nov 2019 #24

"Lack of health insurance". guillaumeb Nov 2019 #30

The ladder us low income folks could climb to success has been taken away by.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #31

Thanks for mentioning climate. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #52

We'll catch up to Russia in no time... hunter Nov 2019 #32

Would you mind linking the study? I don't have a subscription to WP. rainin Nov 2019 #33

I don't have a link to the study, sorry! Ohiogal Nov 2019 #34

Perfect. I got through using incognito. Thanks! rainin Nov 2019 #38

You need to create a free account to download the full text: dalton99a Nov 2019 #36

K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #35

The U.S. might spend more on Scarsdale Nov 2019 #37

Interestingly life expectancy rose during the recession and fell during the recovery Recursion Nov 2019 #40

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its not a theory. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #67

Indeed; theories fit the data Recursion Nov 2019 #68

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We had Medicaid expansion here in Ohio. Ohiogal Nov 2019 #45

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #44

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In the U.S., we make every day life unnecessarily stressful, complex, and expensive. Yavin4 Nov 2019 #51

Important point. Unnecessarily Kurt V. Nov 2019 #56

That's a fact! Ohiogal Nov 2019 #60

And people wonder why there's no mass protests cagefreesoylentgreen Nov 2019 #83

A lot of Americans internalized their stress and pain Yavin4 Nov 2019 #92

Don't forget alcohol. NCLefty Nov 2019 #57

"Dying of Whiteness" tracks it in great detail loyalsister Nov 2019 #58

In the past 18 months we've had three friends lose kids to suicide Throck Nov 2019 #61

Hopelessness, rage, obesity, guns, booze, drugs, crap education, 24/7 disinformation, scapegoating.. VOX Nov 2019 #62

"...have been rising over the past decade"....I read the article AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #70

Very sad indeed. I am familiar with one....Obesity.... Stuart G Nov 2019 #71

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You realize we..humans... are an apex predator right? Life expentancy will continue to rise... AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #79

"We" will eliminate ourselves first. roamer65 Nov 2019 #89

Stop...my sides hurt. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #91

Laugh all you want. roamer65 Nov 2019 #93

I spoke to a friend tonight, who is from a fairly rich family and even has a trust fund, and she smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #76

Life in America is very stressful Ohiogal Nov 2019 #77

Hey, Ohiogal! smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #78

The subject of healthcare Ohiogal Nov 2019 #82

Thanks Ohiogal! smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #86

Yes I think most of us here agree Ohiogal Nov 2019 #88

smirkymonkey bdamomma Nov 2019 #84

Thanks bdamoma! smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #87

Despair n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2019 #80

I've experienced this anecdotally as well :/ Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #85

71% of adults are overweight, and almost 40% are obese NickB79 Nov 2019 #90