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FBaggins

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7. I assume not... but it makes the argument circular

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:08 AM

Nov 2019

If he withheld funds because he was concerned about corruption - then it wouldn’t be impoundment. If he withheld it to pressure them to dig up dirt, then it could be impoundment... but it wouldn’t matter because the deal is already impeachable.

IOW - claims that the withholding could be illegal under the 1974 law don’t add to the case.

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A simple question for every member of the House and Senate [View all] malaise Nov 2019 OP

The answer is no jpak Nov 2019 #1

Presidential Impoundment Act of 1974 says no. lastlib Nov 2019 #2

Wasn't an "Impoundment" issue...Or Chairman Schiff would have hammered that. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #6

Chairman Schiff definitely hammered that Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #40

Not ONE link to Chr. Schiff....you tried...E for effort. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #42

obviously you didn't read one linked source Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #43

I always read links AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #44

There is no such thing as a simple question for Republicans PJMcK Nov 2019 #3

Yes... he can FBaggins Nov 2019 #4

Was this a legitimate purpose malaise Nov 2019 #5

I assume not... but it makes the argument circular FBaggins Nov 2019 #7

Thanks malaise Nov 2019 #8

he must notify Congress. he didn't. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #9

No ..not really. Chairman Schiff would have made that an issue. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #10

yes, it's really the law ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #12

It wasn't a recission....and that's what your citation relies on AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #15

anything over 45 days would be a recission, a changing of the 'contract' Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #16

No....recission has a well defined leagal definition AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #21

I don't know about "leagal" but your beliefs do not trump the law Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #22

You haven't cited applicable Law...there was no recission...and a spelling mistake, really? AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #26

ok, so I'm not a comedian, Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #29

try reading the following, signed by Schiff, Engel, Cummings ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #27

Now it's deferrals...vastly different than recission..where are you going to land the goal posts? AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #28

the goalposts have not changed ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #30

He didn't move the goalposts. That language is in the provision he cited StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #34

From recission to deferrals.....vastly different definitions ....you know that. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #35

Not anywhere near the Law....we didn't have a contract with Ukraine AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #24

the contract is between the legislature and the executive Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #31

You're more fun than than the law allows... AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #32

you might want to review Laura Cooper's deposition Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #33

You may want to follow Chairman Schiff's lead.... not your made up path. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #36

I've cited Schiff, the House, the law, reports, a deposition Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #37

What you cited is a letter....that had no bearing on Shiffs proceedings AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #38

um, the letter was signed by Schiff and laws are not "legally irrelevant" Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #39

You gave it a shot...a crap ton of links AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #41

Not quite FBaggins Nov 2019 #11

no. see above. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #13

There are 14 above your post....which? AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #17

link... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #19

Has no legal bearing....there was no recission AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #20

may you be happy in your beliefs Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #23

I'm happy in the facts...dumpster is a scumbag(fact)... but there was no recission, also a fact AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #25

A more important question is: Bluesaph Nov 2019 #14

The Constitution says no - but Emperor Cheetorious the Last says "fuckin' A!" sandensea Nov 2019 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #45