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28. "TRACES OF TERRORISM: THE WARNINGS; F.B.I. Knew for Years About Terror Pilot Training"

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 11:09 AM

Dec 2019

The F.B.I. had been aware for several years that Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network were training pilots in the United States and elsewhere around the world, according to court records and interviews at flight schools and with federal law enforcement officials.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/us/traces-of-terrorism-the-warnings-fbi-knew-for-years-about-terror-pilot-training.html

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Why the hell are we continuing to train saudis to fly. [View all] boston bean Dec 2019 OP

That's a damn good question! Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1

Cause it's racist not to? zaj Dec 2019 #2

Is it? Seems prudent to me since we trained them to fly jumbo jets and then they flew them boston bean Dec 2019 #3

Let's bad then from air travel too then? zaj Dec 2019 #6

You think so. I certainly haven't said that. But you think so? boston bean Dec 2019 #7

Well your plan is worse... zaj Dec 2019 #42

Huh? I never said ban them from planes. boston bean Dec 2019 #43

...pointlessly racist... zaj Dec 2019 #45

No, we didn't "train them to fly jumbo jets" brooklynite Dec 2019 #22

Really? Pretty sure some were trained in Florida. boston bean Dec 2019 #23

Not to fly jumbo jets ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #26

Alright remove the word jumbo. You all got me. The training they received here did not help them at boston bean Dec 2019 #29

No, you're correct. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #34

I thought so too. Thank you for the documentation! boston bean Dec 2019 #35

He trained on a 737 and other multiple-engine aircraft in Arizona. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #32

Okay, I hadn't read that ... so, one of them did ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #36

The one who got busted, Zacarias Moussaoui, tried to get some training The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #44

I know the story well ... tried but failed ... FBI also failed to check his laptop mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #61

I remember, as you said, at least one learned to fly the big jets, but never learned how to land. cwydro Dec 2019 #66

Yes, they were trained in Florida. Thanks for the post bb. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #65

"TRACES OF TERRORISM: THE WARNINGS; F.B.I. Knew for Years About Terror Pilot Training" redqueen Dec 2019 #28

False. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #31

They trained at private flight academies. rickford66 Dec 2019 #63

We're not going to ban an entire nation for the actions of a few. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #37

No I don't think so. boston bean Dec 2019 #73

Every person from Saudi Arabia we trained to fly turned out to be terrorists? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #52

Who said that? boston bean Dec 2019 #72

Something picky I know... but being a Saudi is not a race OKNancy Dec 2019 #8

Race is not a factor; nationality is Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #9

And here it is not private companies like in 911, but our military and military planes. boston bean Dec 2019 #15

I really have to decide whether to wash socks this morning. Then rzemanfl Dec 2019 #12

What's Racist About Not Training Another Country's Citizen to Fly Me. Dec 2019 #47

You can't reject someone based on their nationality. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #4

Maybe. But obviously there should be maximum boston bean Dec 2019 #5

Seriously? rzemanfl Dec 2019 #13

Sure you can! I wouldn't like us to be training Ruskies or Chinese military pilots. n/t Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #14

Srsly? Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #17

I Don't Think The Issue Is Nationality Me. Dec 2019 #48

Also concerning... Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #10

Unless you are a permanent resident with a green card you can not.nt. drray23 Dec 2019 #27

In that case Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #33

Nationals of any country allied with Donald Trump are questionable. gordianot Dec 2019 #11

The thing is with his Syria stunt, we are a now part of a new Axis dewsgirl Dec 2019 #19

Great question! kentuck Dec 2019 #16

Because they are allies of the United States of kacekwl Dec 2019 #18

It may have to do with the contract when we sell them planes. Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #20

They buy our war planes and we train their procon Dec 2019 #21

Ding ding ding! Bayard Dec 2019 #64

Correct. And the Saudi military is 1 of the 2 significant counterweights to the expansion of Iranian SuprstitionAintthWay Dec 2019 #67

How does training to fly relate to a shooting on the ground? Kaleva Dec 2019 #24

Umm. Try to think it through. boston bean Dec 2019 #30

Would you be asking the same question if a Saudi sailor shot people at Great Lakes NTC? Kaleva Dec 2019 #39

Were we giving flight lessons? boston bean Dec 2019 #40

So as long as a Saudi mass shooter isn't getting flight lessons, it's not a big deal. Kaleva Dec 2019 #56

Umm. No. boston bean Dec 2019 #69

Your question ought to be then "Why do we continue to allow Saudis in our country?" Kaleva Dec 2019 #74

But that wasn't the question. boston bean Dec 2019 #75

Many foreign countries military are trained at US bases HipChick Dec 2019 #25

Just for starters: 1-800-OIL. Super-wealthy Saudi Royal Family Golden Raisin Dec 2019 #38

We used to train them because they were our trusted allies. bluedigger Dec 2019 #41

Training was always about the check clearing. ManiacJoe Dec 2019 #68

Because they buy our planes and pay us to train pilots for those planes haele Dec 2019 #46

Correct jberryhill Dec 2019 #59

Ask trump. They're his friends. (nt) Paladin Dec 2019 #49

Saudi individuals are not responsible treestar Dec 2019 #50

"Look deep into my eyes! You are getting sleepy! Very sleepy!" struggle4progress Dec 2019 #51

because our defence industry doesnt make enough money from american tax dollars SterlingPound Dec 2019 #53

Wasn't there a warning briefing on Aug 6th or so that Dubya ignored? keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #54

$$$$$ maybe benld74 Dec 2019 #55

They buy our airplanes so we teach them to fly them. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #57

We sold them fighter jets you know jberryhill Dec 2019 #58

Sick. what about plans for all young W American males ? Should other lunasun Dec 2019 #60

Saudi Oil is essential to the world economy so we have a military alliance Cicada Dec 2019 #62

Cant sell them all those shiny warplanes without teaching them to fly them, too. Nailzberg Dec 2019 #70

You could tell them to go fly a MiG but that would be dumb. BrightKnight Dec 2019 #71

Corruption. theaocp Dec 2019 #76