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32. He trained on a 737 and other multiple-engine aircraft in Arizona.

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 11:13 AM

Dec 2019

"Upon his U.S. arrival, Hanjour housed himself with Nawaf al Hazmi in Mesa to continue training on multi-engine aircrafts at Arizona Aviation. He continued to have trouble in his classes because of his limited English.

In early 2001, Hanjour began training on a Boeing 737 simulator at the Pan Am International Flight Academy in Mesa."

https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/old-time-crime-arizona-was-a-training-ground-for-the-september-11th-attackers

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Why the hell are we continuing to train saudis to fly. [View all] boston bean Dec 2019 OP

That's a damn good question! Ohiogal Dec 2019 #1

Cause it's racist not to? zaj Dec 2019 #2

Is it? Seems prudent to me since we trained them to fly jumbo jets and then they flew them boston bean Dec 2019 #3

Let's bad then from air travel too then? zaj Dec 2019 #6

You think so. I certainly haven't said that. But you think so? boston bean Dec 2019 #7

Well your plan is worse... zaj Dec 2019 #42

Huh? I never said ban them from planes. boston bean Dec 2019 #43

...pointlessly racist... zaj Dec 2019 #45

No, we didn't "train them to fly jumbo jets" brooklynite Dec 2019 #22

Really? Pretty sure some were trained in Florida. boston bean Dec 2019 #23

Not to fly jumbo jets ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #26

Alright remove the word jumbo. You all got me. The training they received here did not help them at boston bean Dec 2019 #29

No, you're correct. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #34

I thought so too. Thank you for the documentation! boston bean Dec 2019 #35

He trained on a 737 and other multiple-engine aircraft in Arizona. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #32

Okay, I hadn't read that ... so, one of them did ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #36

The one who got busted, Zacarias Moussaoui, tried to get some training The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #44

I know the story well ... tried but failed ... FBI also failed to check his laptop mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #61

I remember, as you said, at least one learned to fly the big jets, but never learned how to land. cwydro Dec 2019 #66

Yes, they were trained in Florida. Thanks for the post bb. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #65

"TRACES OF TERRORISM: THE WARNINGS; F.B.I. Knew for Years About Terror Pilot Training" redqueen Dec 2019 #28

False. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #31

They trained at private flight academies. rickford66 Dec 2019 #63

We're not going to ban an entire nation for the actions of a few. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #37

No I don't think so. boston bean Dec 2019 #73

Every person from Saudi Arabia we trained to fly turned out to be terrorists? StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #52

Who said that? boston bean Dec 2019 #72

Something picky I know... but being a Saudi is not a race OKNancy Dec 2019 #8

Race is not a factor; nationality is Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #9

And here it is not private companies like in 911, but our military and military planes. boston bean Dec 2019 #15

I really have to decide whether to wash socks this morning. Then rzemanfl Dec 2019 #12

What's Racist About Not Training Another Country's Citizen to Fly Me. Dec 2019 #47

You can't reject someone based on their nationality. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #4

Maybe. But obviously there should be maximum boston bean Dec 2019 #5

Seriously? rzemanfl Dec 2019 #13

Sure you can! I wouldn't like us to be training Ruskies or Chinese military pilots. n/t Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #14

Srsly? Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #17

I Don't Think The Issue Is Nationality Me. Dec 2019 #48

Also concerning... Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #10

Unless you are a permanent resident with a green card you can not.nt. drray23 Dec 2019 #27

In that case Cirque du So-What Dec 2019 #33

Nationals of any country allied with Donald Trump are questionable. gordianot Dec 2019 #11

The thing is with his Syria stunt, we are a now part of a new Axis dewsgirl Dec 2019 #19

Great question! kentuck Dec 2019 #16

Because they are allies of the United States of kacekwl Dec 2019 #18

It may have to do with the contract when we sell them planes. Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #20

They buy our war planes and we train their procon Dec 2019 #21

Ding ding ding! Bayard Dec 2019 #64

Correct. And the Saudi military is 1 of the 2 significant counterweights to the expansion of Iranian SuprstitionAintthWay Dec 2019 #67

How does training to fly relate to a shooting on the ground? Kaleva Dec 2019 #24

Umm. Try to think it through. boston bean Dec 2019 #30

Would you be asking the same question if a Saudi sailor shot people at Great Lakes NTC? Kaleva Dec 2019 #39

Were we giving flight lessons? boston bean Dec 2019 #40

So as long as a Saudi mass shooter isn't getting flight lessons, it's not a big deal. Kaleva Dec 2019 #56

Umm. No. boston bean Dec 2019 #69

Your question ought to be then "Why do we continue to allow Saudis in our country?" Kaleva Dec 2019 #74

But that wasn't the question. boston bean Dec 2019 #75

Many foreign countries military are trained at US bases HipChick Dec 2019 #25

Just for starters: 1-800-OIL. Super-wealthy Saudi Royal Family Golden Raisin Dec 2019 #38

We used to train them because they were our trusted allies. bluedigger Dec 2019 #41

Training was always about the check clearing. ManiacJoe Dec 2019 #68

Because they buy our planes and pay us to train pilots for those planes haele Dec 2019 #46

Correct jberryhill Dec 2019 #59

Ask trump. They're his friends. (nt) Paladin Dec 2019 #49

Saudi individuals are not responsible treestar Dec 2019 #50

"Look deep into my eyes! You are getting sleepy! Very sleepy!" struggle4progress Dec 2019 #51

because our defence industry doesnt make enough money from american tax dollars SterlingPound Dec 2019 #53

Wasn't there a warning briefing on Aug 6th or so that Dubya ignored? keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #54

$$$$$ maybe benld74 Dec 2019 #55

They buy our airplanes so we teach them to fly them. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #57

We sold them fighter jets you know jberryhill Dec 2019 #58

Sick. what about plans for all young W American males ? Should other lunasun Dec 2019 #60

Saudi Oil is essential to the world economy so we have a military alliance Cicada Dec 2019 #62

Cant sell them all those shiny warplanes without teaching them to fly them, too. Nailzberg Dec 2019 #70

You could tell them to go fly a MiG but that would be dumb. BrightKnight Dec 2019 #71

Corruption. theaocp Dec 2019 #76