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Johnny2X2X

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48. The Game Changers has been thoroughly debunked

Reply to MLAA (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 11:32 AM

Dec 2019

Some good info in it for sure, but it’s been exposed as stretching the truth and being very selective with data.

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How much would giving up meat help the environment? [View all] demmiblue Dec 2019 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author meow2u3 Dec 2019 #1

Lol! demmiblue Dec 2019 #4

Yes, every time science disagrees with personal belief systems, it's a conspiracy. Doodley Dec 2019 #11

Maybe you could be sensitive to the planet and future generations. Doodley Dec 2019 #10

They have zero fucks to give Codeine Dec 2019 #86

Buy meat that is, "Humane Farming" or "Humanely Farmed" Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #16

That's better than nothing but it still takes 10 calories of energy to get 1 calorie from beef Doremus Dec 2019 #51

Grass fed beef is actually good for the environment. If you see my other post Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #63

Uh, no. Doremus Dec 2019 #70

What that movie spoke about was how many billions of buffalo roamed around the US Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #71

50-60 million bison. There are more than 30 million cattle slaughtered each YEAR Doremus Dec 2019 #72

Add to that another 9 BILLION chickens Codeine Dec 2019 #84

There are around 55 million turkeys slaughtered, just for Thanksgiving. Doodley Dec 2019 #96

Non union - will never shop there demosincebirth Dec 2019 #80

Nothing in FL is union. Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #88

Must be something union - railroads, airports, container yards, etc, etc. demosincebirth Dec 2019 #95

I have a friend that worked at the airport, fueling the planes and he was paid crap wages. Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #100

Trying to imagine how industrial killing Codeine Dec 2019 #83

The manure is a problem. pwb Dec 2019 #2

The manure can be used for fertilizer meow2u3 Dec 2019 #8

In that special on the Keto diet they talked about how there were million of buffalos roaming Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #18

This is the best post here Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #47

Even just reducing beef (as opposed to other meats) would have a huge impact Takket Dec 2019 #3

Here is a link that speaks to grass fed beef. Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #19

Most (70-85%) of grass fed beef is imported from Australia. Doremus Dec 2019 #53

Not for much longer. roamer65 Dec 2019 #77

Yep, if it doesn't burn up first. :( Doremus Dec 2019 #90

making humans Vegan is the U.N. evil plan to curb global warming SterlingPound Dec 2019 #5

I have been a vegetarian... Newest Reality Dec 2019 #6

I've given up factory farm meat. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #7

A vegetarian diet is not necessarily the unmitigated good PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #9

I'm a vegetarian and have never sought to convert anyone. My wife is a carnivore, and Doodley Dec 2019 #13

excuse me? meat eaters don't go out of their way to persuade others? 0rganism Dec 2019 #35

So sorry about the commercials. Since I don't have a TV I tend to be PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #39

fair enough, but it's not just TV 0rganism Dec 2019 #42

"meat eaters don't go out of their way to persuade others they really ought to be eating meat" flibbitygiblets Dec 2019 #65

Actually they do True_Blue Dec 2019 #97

I would never lecture anyone that they must eat meat. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #104

If certain animals don't have monetary value, they will be eradicated. Greybnk48 Dec 2019 #12

That argument is nonsense. To move to an all vegetarian society would save the lives of hundreds Doodley Dec 2019 #14

What would happen sarisataka Dec 2019 #15

There wouldn't be an abundance. They would dwindle to very small numbers. Doodley Dec 2019 #17

I don't believe that farm animals sarisataka Dec 2019 #20

There already is mass euthanasia of animals, every single day. Doodley Dec 2019 #23

The point is mass vegetarianism sarisataka Dec 2019 #28

It would stop the slaughter of hundreds of millions of animals every single day. Doodley Dec 2019 #43

Again, what value would a pig have if it's not being raised for meat Greybnk48 Dec 2019 #78

It's your choice to be a vegetarian, dware Dec 2019 #30

Too bad the planet (and the animals) can't say the same. nt Doremus Dec 2019 #54

Being at the top of the food chain has it's advantages. pintobean Dec 2019 #67

Yeah, we don't have to wait to be picked off by predators, we can take ourselves out. nt Doremus Dec 2019 #69

If your animal worship religion/philosophy customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #21

Well said. nt dware Dec 2019 #31

Well, if that's the way you feel about it... hunter Dec 2019 #32

What are you going on about? demmiblue Dec 2019 #33

That's the latest "card" customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #49

It's the old "muh bacon" defense. lololo Doremus Dec 2019 #55

Can you eat your steak without insulting other people? yewberry Dec 2019 #68

The vegan/vegetarian group customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #73

LOL that's not why you were banned. flvegan Dec 2019 #74

DU routinely allows you and others to say shitty and untrue things about us. yewberry Dec 2019 #89

I don't believe people who eat meat Codeine Dec 2019 #105

Eating meat is how we evolved. MrsCoffee Dec 2019 #22

How is that relevant to making choices now that are less damaging to the environment? Doodley Dec 2019 #25

Would you miss the cows? brooklynite Dec 2019 #24

... demmiblue Dec 2019 #34

Things that crack me up: Doremus Dec 2019 #56

Not troubled at all, but I DO enjoy a good "Holier than Thou" thread... brooklynite Dec 2019 #61

I've been off animal products for years. Save your health, save animals and save planet 🙂 MLAA Dec 2019 #26

The Game Changers has been thoroughly debunked Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #48

Really? I hadn't heard that. Got any links to reputable sources? Doremus Dec 2019 #57

The meat industry has certainly been vocal against the movie 🙂 MLAA Dec 2019 #59

Great for the environments. democratisphere Dec 2019 #27

these studies and stats rarely take into account the vastly different types of husbandry that exists Kali Dec 2019 #29

Not as much as giving up children. The_jackalope Dec 2019 #36

I've told two nieces not to have children. roamer65 Dec 2019 #75

This argument is counterproductive and, therefore, ironically, anti-environment. gulliver Dec 2019 #37

Better to eat Republicans The_jackalope Dec 2019 #38

Ok, two cannibals sitting down for dinner: JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #64

I've been sick all week Bayard Dec 2019 #40

No, they don't. dware Dec 2019 #44

Thanks! Bayard Dec 2019 #50

Counterpoint ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #85

I'm sure. dware Dec 2019 #92

I tried one. xmas74 Dec 2019 #106

Maybe it's just me, dware Dec 2019 #108

Meh. I've been a vegan for a long time Codeine Dec 2019 #109

I didn't know about the Beyond Tacos at Taco Bell. dware Dec 2019 #111

Not at all. You can have my bacon when you pry it from my greasy hands. scheming daemons Dec 2019 #41

I can't remember the last steak I ate. MineralMan Dec 2019 #45

Unfortunately, in my chosen profession, dware Dec 2019 #46

I'm on a plant based diet evertonfc Dec 2019 #52

Cheese, yogurt, milk products aren't plant-based. nt Doremus Dec 2019 #58

vegetarians evertonfc Dec 2019 #60

I know. Doremus Dec 2019 #66

I rarely eat MFM008 Dec 2019 #62

On DU, it largely doesn't matter. flvegan Dec 2019 #76

They'll excoriate climate change denial, Codeine Dec 2019 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Dec 2019 #79

Earthworms are an invasive species. hunter Dec 2019 #107

Tried the plant based hamburger. Aussie105 Dec 2019 #81

I used to like beef, but had to give it up decades ago for health reasons DFW Dec 2019 #87

ah, the eternal vanity of homo sapiens Nature Man Dec 2019 #91

Now there's a good way to win an election. Run against the hamburger! GulfCoast66 Dec 2019 #93

Soylent Green time. roamer65 Dec 2019 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #98

NTSA! whistler162 Dec 2019 #99

what would happen to all the farms animals if we all went all vegan? samnsara Dec 2019 #101

I would probably die or be severely injured from diabetes if I had to go meatless Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #102

Execellent post. dware Dec 2019 #103

Go veg if you want for your diet, but don't pretend it will have the same impact of alternative JCMach1 Dec 2019 #110