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kentuck

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Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:33 AM Dec 2019

Which Articles of Impeachment? [View all]

Our national security was betrayed. Treason.

Withheld funds from Ukraine, without Congressional approval, to get the president of Ukraine to investigate his political opponents. Bribery.

Refused to cooperate, with the constitutional duties of the Congress in an impeachment trial, by refusing to let anyone in his Administration testify before the Congress. Obstruction of Congress.

In the Mueller investigation, with people under oath, there were several instances of attempts to block or obstruct the investigation. He attempted to fire the Special Counsel. In one instance, he wanted his White House Counsel to change the official record to cover for his criminality. Obstruction of Justice.

There were four Articles against Bill Clinton but the Congress only approved two of them. They could have impeached with just one Article.

The same should apply here.

They should pass articles on Treason, Bribery, Obstruction of Congress, and Obstruction of Justice. They can put any additional charges under one of the Four above. It is an umbrella big enough to hold all the charges against Mr Trump, in my opinion.

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Don't look for the word "Treason" in any of the articles. MineralMan Dec 2019 #1
I think a good case for espionauge could be made though SterlingPound Dec 2019 #2
Possibly. However, it would be a stretch and might MineralMan Dec 2019 #6
depends on how strong a case they make against him on it SterlingPound Dec 2019 #8
I suspect you are right. However, it would throw Trump for a loop. kentuck Dec 2019 #3
No. What it would do is create an obvious flaw in the MineralMan Dec 2019 #4
How about Bribery? kentuck Dec 2019 #7
No. Bribery is easily handled. Trump's bargaining MineralMan Dec 2019 #14
Bribery H2O Man Dec 2019 #17
Correct. We (and Trump) misuse that word frequently. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #5
Exactly. We need not to make stupid mistakes in charging Trump. MineralMan Dec 2019 #9
Agreed. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #11
Would obstruction of Congress be valid? kentuck Dec 2019 #12
Yes, of course. I mentioned that above. MineralMan Dec 2019 #15
Treason? getagrip_already Dec 2019 #10
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #13
I'm sure those are exactly the charges that will be brought. MineralMan Dec 2019 #16
One of the best H2O Man Dec 2019 #18
Well, the defense will be primarily bluster, diversion, and obstruction. MineralMan Dec 2019 #20
When the trial H2O Man Dec 2019 #23
Yes. There is a precarious balance that will be needed. MineralMan Dec 2019 #28
That makes sense. kentuck Dec 2019 #19
In post #17, H2O Man Dec 2019 #21
Sounds about right. kentuck Dec 2019 #22
One of the best things, H2O Man Dec 2019 #24
Can Trump "sit out" his own trial in the Senate and not show up? kentuck Dec 2019 #25
Very interesting questions. H2O Man Dec 2019 #26
This is unchartered territory... kentuck Dec 2019 #27
There are some precedents for trying defendants in absentia. MineralMan Dec 2019 #29
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