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41. IA/NH sets the narrative of presidential politics

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 02:36 AM

Dec 2019

for both parties that influences all of the polls and later voting.

If all viewers see on TV are white working class Joes w/hats and pickup trucks at diners - they'll perceive that idealized small town setting as the 'real' America that needs to be appealed to, when the reality is modern America is heavily metropolitan and diverse.

These factors, along with the EC and Senate explain how much our system is weighted towards the rural, white, culturally conservative voter. Even if many of such voters are left-populists, they still aren't representative of what modern day America is.

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Someone please explain to me why a small, rural, mainly white state like Iowa should exercise [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2019 OP

Can't explain besides tradition, way too much influence n/t hibbing Dec 2019 #1

So no logical reason. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #5

I hated Super Tuesdays, when the nominee was picked before my state's primary. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #2

Great post. Thank you. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #3

Thank you. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #6

I am all for a single day for all primaries SterlingPound Dec 2019 #4

One advantage of the seemingly endless primary process is.... guillaumeb Dec 2019 #9

I agree 1000% plus the weeks inbetween some primaries allows the media to SterlingPound Dec 2019 #13

Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #14

"One big primary" would favor the early money. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #42

I don't know, but this is like the hundredth post on it. cwydro Dec 2019 #7

IT shouldn't... position should be rotated among the states that want to go early... JCMach1 Dec 2019 #8

Or, group states so that 20% of the population is guillaumeb Dec 2019 #11

I don't mind individual states rotating into primaries in Feb. and before March 15. JCMach1 Dec 2019 #43

It exercises influence because people let it exercise influence. onenote Dec 2019 #10

And it benefits the media, and the advertising industry. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #12

This. People will claim those states have too much influence... MichMan Dec 2019 #15

because like all US citizens they are eligible to vote in elections? nt msongs Dec 2019 #16

But their votes weigh far heavier. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #17

In that scenario, the only candidates who could Bettie Dec 2019 #18

But these smaller, whiter, and more rural states guillaumeb Dec 2019 #19

So, I guess there needs to be a decision made by people Bettie Dec 2019 #24

In Illinois, the race is generally already decided, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #25

Maybe the real solution is to Bettie Dec 2019 #28

No offense. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #33

Perfect example of how institutional racism works StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #20

True. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #21

Yes StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #22

+1 crickets Dec 2019 #23

Good point Johonny Dec 2019 #44

I hated it when they picked that white dude Obama RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #70

And I hate being reminded of the pervasiveness of ignorance and insensitivity right in our midst StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #71

I'm sorry Iowa was the first state to spring our first black president RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #75

And South Carolina was the first state to "spring" our first black Member of Congress into office. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #76

Probably tradition? Just like the 250 year old constitution! at140 Dec 2019 #26

Many traditions are no longer observed. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #34

No argument, but it is not easy to change at140 Dec 2019 #36

Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #46

I agree. The entire population of the STLMO metro area is more than the entire state of Iowa. ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #27

Polling is done nationwide Bettie Dec 2019 #29

I never answer any phone call not on my contact list...eom at140 Dec 2019 #37

Are you of the belief that if a different state went before Iowa, no one would have dropped out ? MichMan Dec 2019 #32

No of course not. I'm just saying that more of us should have a say... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #66

Nobody's dropping out just because of Iowa RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #77

Iowa Democrats vote in Democratic caucuses. Iowa Republicans vote in Republican caucuses. Itchinjim Dec 2019 #30

This again? SharonClark Dec 2019 #31

I am attacking the process, not any particular state. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #35

We all know what NH means during primary season at140 Dec 2019 #38

So my attempt at humor failed? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #47

Sorry, I must have been in a mood which was at140 Dec 2019 #48

Understood. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #49

Absolutely! Humor is what separates us from animals at140 Dec 2019 #67

Trump fakes laughing. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #68

I have never seen Trump laughing at140 Dec 2019 #69

K&R UTUSN Dec 2019 #39

A kick lunasun Dec 2019 #40

IA/NH sets the narrative of presidential politics radius777 Dec 2019 #41

Another day of Skidmore Dec 2019 #45

There is no question that we all have the same needs, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #50

You know where the power matter most of all? Skidmore Dec 2019 #53

And the Senate is also designed to give more power to low population areas. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #54

Are none of those Republicans Skidmore Dec 2019 #57

Maddening, isn't it? Bettie Dec 2019 #65

The purpose of this narrative is to divide us and I say this underthematrix Dec 2019 #51

But we also have to be aware of the not so subtle ways that racism guillaumeb Dec 2019 #52

States set their own primary dates. It isn't something that was decided The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #55

Understood. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #59

Congress can't mandate any such thing. The Constitution gives states The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #60

I know that as well. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #61

If you think Iowa Democratic caucus goers are "rightward leaning" rsdsharp Dec 2019 #56

So people in lightly populated areas have more right to see the candiates? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #58

Yes, we're a small state, although a defy you to show me where I said rsdsharp Dec 2019 #62

It was implicit in your statement, in my view. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #63

My view is different. I'm done with this. rsdsharp Dec 2019 #64

Does the current system produce bad nominees? Kaleva Dec 2019 #72

Could a different system produce different noiminees? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #73

I think one would want to change the current system if they were unhappy with the nominees Kaleva Dec 2019 #74

Influence in general is weird thing fescuerescue Dec 2019 #78

True, we must not break with tradition. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #79