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(115,186 posts) Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:49 PM Dec 2019

A self-driving truck delivered butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days [View all]

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How long will it be before self-driving trucks are delivering goods regularly across the nation’s highways? Kerrigan thinks it’s “a few years out.”

Dan Ives, managing director of equity research for Wedbush Securities, predicts there will be quite a few autonomous freight-delivery pilots in 2020 and 2021, with the beginning of a commercial rollout in 2022. Like other experts, he believes the trucking industry will be the first to adopt autonomous technology on a mass scale.

The timeline will depend on regulations, which vary state to state, he said.

About 10 to 15 companies nationwide are working on autonomous freight delivery, Ives said. That includes San Francisco-based self-driving truck startup Embark Trucks, which last year completed a five-day, 2,400-mile cross-country trip. But that truck carried no freight.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/10/a-self-driving-truck-delivered-butter-from-california-to-pennsylvania-in-three-days/amp/

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A self-driving truck delivered butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days [View all] redqueen Dec 2019 OP

I don't like that. ecstatic Dec 2019 #1

During this cross-country trip there were no disengagements. redqueen Dec 2019 #8

What happens when someone writes a "save the load" override in the software? Baitball Blogger Dec 2019 #113

I agree. cwydro Dec 2019 #17

What could go wrong is a reasonable question to ask, and it's one that Sapient Donkey Dec 2019 #22

They're actually aiming to make these safer than a human driver. redqueen Dec 2019 #28

as long as a human rides along, losing jobs at the expense of progress is a losing battle Demonaut Dec 2019 #47

I was just saying that to my blacksmith the other day Recursion Dec 2019 #57

LOL Vinnie From Indy Dec 2019 #76

I think there's an app for that Demonaut Dec 2019 #136

Just shows how out of touch you are! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #154

True, they wouldn't invest so much $ development if that were the case redqueen Dec 2019 #63

Those jobs won't be good paying union trucker jobs, though Ohiogal Dec 2019 #77

Most trucking jobs ARE NOT "good paying union trucker jobs" though. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #155

Sorry, that wasn't what I meant! Ohiogal Dec 2019 #158

Fair enough. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #159

Progress creates new jobs in new industries. cbdo2007 Dec 2019 #84

sure, no one complains about driving for uber, or amazon warehouse workers, or grubhub delivery Demonaut Dec 2019 #85

Wow, that is a pretty short sighted view of progress...truck drivers to delivery drivers cbdo2007 Dec 2019 #89

I'm not arguing that progress is a bad thing but some innovations have negative consequences Demonaut Dec 2019 #92

Yes, they definitely did have an impact, and now many b&m stores have evolved to compete... cbdo2007 Dec 2019 #107

Are you sure about this? redqueen Dec 2019 #94

As Each new job area grows, it becomes a new target for AI. Hangingon Dec 2019 #194

Newt Gingrich's '90s premonition of Nature Man Dec 2019 #105

Probably less than currently goes wrong with human drivers Recursion Dec 2019 #56

An OTR standard limit is 40 tons gross weight soryang Dec 2019 #121

Wait a minute... lame54 Dec 2019 #2

Yes of course - this has been going on for a while now. redqueen Dec 2019 #5

I'll be glad when we get these in Texas. We have some of the worst drivers in the nation. It has got walkingman Dec 2019 #3

We've had similar tests going on in Texas. redqueen Dec 2019 #7

You have described practically every trip I've made on I-5 Adsos Letter Dec 2019 #34

The AI driven trucks will chain together redqueen Dec 2019 #40

what does chain together mean? pangaia Dec 2019 #54

One truck leads and the several others follow in its draft Recursion Dec 2019 #62

How can you pass them on a secondary road o r make a left hand turn? Are they programmed to yield to doc03 Dec 2019 #153

"Human drivers do it now, but it can be dangerous." A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #157

If you monitor CB radio Nature Man Dec 2019 #192

I haven't listened to a CB radio in 6 years A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #200

10-4 Nature Man Dec 2019 #206

I don't think it is unusual. Hangingon Dec 2019 #193

The circumstance that the Poster Recursion mentioned above is different ... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #201

However you describe them, they are a problem for other drivers Hangingon Dec 2019 #203

Right, it's DiverDave Dec 2019 #50

Andrew Yang is spot on when he says that FM123 Dec 2019 #4

Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #12

He is pro UBI isn' He? SterlingPound Dec 2019 #23

Yes, and here is a link to his policy proposal on the topic of UBI Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #29

+All the "robot" jobs . People don't see it . Although I do have to say at my kids' high school they lunasun Dec 2019 #15

I agree of course. redqueen Dec 2019 #16

ATMs, Self service gas pumps, etc. You can't stop technology. Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #69

There used to be 100,000 telephone operators in the US Jose Garcia Dec 2019 #120

You may want to check out the article in the post linked below redqueen Dec 2019 #126

I heard from a truck driver there are more immediate problems JonLP24 Dec 2019 #142

Trucking is having a hard year ripcord Dec 2019 #162

+1000 Anon-C Dec 2019 #202

As someone who has been a truck driver for most of my adult life, allow me to fill in the blanks.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2019 #163

Big #MAGA Suprise....All truck driving jobs will die in 10 years zaj Dec 2019 #6

Another social upheaval we need a strong leader to prepare for NOW, not wait for it to happen. nt Doremus Dec 2019 #9

Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #13

Agreed! Newest Reality Dec 2019 #14

Trucking companies are having a hard time finding drivers. Kaleva Dec 2019 #93

It's a hard job. Many don't realize how hard. redqueen Dec 2019 #95

How do they refuel? lame54 Dec 2019 #99

They will build a network of refiling stations zaj Dec 2019 #111

right, how do they... soryang Dec 2019 #123

I feel for Truck drivers. KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #10

Have you seen the Frontline episode called In the age of AI? redqueen Dec 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Dec 2019 #38

How is this tech any different from previous job killing tech? Yavin4 Dec 2019 #11

Probably because this only benefits corporations? At least the other tech makes ecstatic Dec 2019 #19

If you have it, a truck brought it to you Recursion Dec 2019 #58

What benefit will it have to consumers? Bettie Dec 2019 #78

Yes to both Recursion Dec 2019 #80

I disagree - the trend shows more low wage jobs. redqueen Dec 2019 #90

+1 True appalachiablue Dec 2019 #166

We don't live in a vacuum. My job has been secure ecstatic Dec 2019 #82

The jobs being created are fewer and either high or low pay. redqueen Dec 2019 #20

Panic? DiverDave Dec 2019 #49

I'd rather take my chances with computer driven cars and trucks than Yavin4 Dec 2019 #67

This is the truth of it Johnny2X2X Dec 2019 #204

Human beings cannot stop texting. Yavin4 Dec 2019 #205

I don't have to imagine what it feels like Mariana Dec 2019 #98

I am very sorry to hear DiverDave Dec 2019 #147

Opposed to a truck driven by a human? Revanchist Dec 2019 #137

Sorry to hear that. DiverDave Dec 2019 #148

She was driving straight on the highway Revanchist Dec 2019 #180

Zombie cars scare people lame54 Dec 2019 #102

I'm more afraid of... tonedevil Dec 2019 #134

I'm more afraid of New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #171

That'll be cool when the computer controlled driving software and hardware Nature Man Dec 2019 #18

The world is changing, and the speed of those chances is going to increase. redqueen Dec 2019 #26

the world has always been changing Nature Man Dec 2019 #103

What I am pointing out is the speed at which things change. redqueen Dec 2019 #108

My guess is special lanes will be built for self driving trucks over interstates and Blue_true Dec 2019 #145

Local Walmart will close safeinOhio Dec 2019 #21

*rueful laugh* redqueen Dec 2019 #25

One thing about self checkout I never had the computer have to call doc03 Dec 2019 #156

they'd never make Smokey and Bandit with driverless trucks.... RT Atlanta Dec 2019 #27

May be it will be Cars 10 - Smokey and the Bandit csziggy Dec 2019 #35

I wonder if Amazon is investing into this? DUar17 Dec 2019 #30

I'm avoiding highways more and more Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #31

Lol, so you want no software, but your on the DU? Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #70

Lol, so you think driving and chatting are the same? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #87

I think software is everywhere, you can't avoid it. Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #91

IOW, let us welcome our new buggy overlords on the highway Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #97

40,000 traffic deaths in 2018. So that seems ok I guess. Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #100

your false dichotomy is noted Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #125

Is there a reason... tonedevil Dec 2019 #122

when the software can be proven safe as truckers, get back to me Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #127

As this article illustrates... tonedevil Dec 2019 #129

Where did that person say or imply they "want no software?" Nature Man Dec 2019 #116

Uhm. Having a 30 ton truck plow into a car is just slightly differen madinmaryland Dec 2019 #144

Well, 40,000 die EVERY YEAR with humans at the wheel! Get it yet? nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #146

+1. People have a false sense of what computers are, radius777 Dec 2019 #79

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #101

You may want to check out the linked episode of Frontline redqueen Dec 2019 #124

They are not worried about butter getting high jacked? Captain Zero Dec 2019 #32

Robocops awesomerwb1 Dec 2019 #189

Someone said they don't have to be perfect drivers... trof Dec 2019 #33

I'm 50 and I expect to see it. I give it 10 years max for trucks. redqueen Dec 2019 #41

many commercial aircraft can already take off, land and come to a stop basically unaided pangaia Dec 2019 #55

I was just coming here to say that Recursion Dec 2019 #59

Been there, done that. trof Dec 2019 #139

Wonderful story..... pangaia Dec 2019 #140

Only if they build "Autonomous Only Highways" The Figment Dec 2019 #36

The only weather condition they have an issue with is snow. redqueen Dec 2019 #42

"...in that time I see lots of "human driven car/AI Truck crashes." Mariana Dec 2019 #43

The humans The Figment Dec 2019 #44

Technology happens and you cannot stop it! Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #71

they probably could have gotten butter from somewhere a lot closer than California aidbo Dec 2019 #37

Are they vulnerable to hijacking ? rickford66 Dec 2019 #39

Gassing up? That's where humans become useful again... Buns_of_Fire Dec 2019 #48

First self-driving truck fatality in 3 ... 2 ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #45

1.2 million road deaths every year Recursion Dec 2019 #60

+1000, amazing how people don't get this! Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #72

Apparently you are... lame54 Dec 2019 #104

Not from a long-haul truck Recursion Dec 2019 #106

False... lame54 Dec 2019 #110

You mean the woman who dived out in front of the car? (nt) Recursion Dec 2019 #114

No... lame54 Dec 2019 #117

I think it's the one you're talking about. (nt) Recursion Dec 2019 #118

It's definitely not... lame54 Dec 2019 #119

That one is on Arizona JonLP24 Dec 2019 #143

Link to that story, please? nt. Mariana Dec 2019 #133

Actually... lame54 Dec 2019 #135

Great, but I think they can make butter in damn Pennsylvania. nt greyl Dec 2019 #46

WTF will happen when there are no jobs left because of automation, democratisphere Dec 2019 #51

Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #52

What will all those people who thresh wheat every fall do? Recursion Dec 2019 #61

True, but anyone expecting that is going to happen again is not paying attention. redqueen Dec 2019 #66

The people that live in the cities will now be replaced by the democratisphere Dec 2019 #68

Plumber-bot is a long way off. Home-health-aide-bot even farther Recursion Dec 2019 #74

Key word is "transition." It can be a smooth one or, with corporatists in charge, Doremus Dec 2019 #88

Here's my favorite take on this. redqueen Dec 2019 #96

Bingo Recursion Dec 2019 #109

Well, we can't depend on them to share it willingly. Doremus Dec 2019 #131

I disagree that protests are the best method. redqueen Dec 2019 #132

I'd like to learn more about Yang and his platform. Doremus Dec 2019 #177

He is, yes. Obama did talk about it though! (video below) redqueen Dec 2019 #179

Not sure if you saw these - redqueen Dec 2019 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Dec 2019 #65

You realize throughout history this has happened? Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #73

Not like THIS! democratisphere Dec 2019 #75

Then, we better hope there are a lot of big, profit generating companies in USA to tax. Hoyt Dec 2019 #86

The sooner you realize everything is a scam Nature Man Dec 2019 #112

What does that mean? redqueen Dec 2019 #128

Sure. Let's just ignore THIS as all of the jobs dwindle away. democratisphere Dec 2019 #130

It's a big club Nature Man Dec 2019 #138

And how long would it have taken PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #53

Unfortunately, Burt Reynolds and Jerry Reed are no longer available. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2019 #81

Yep, if I was a truck driver I would already be looking for a career change... cbdo2007 Dec 2019 #83

This topic never fails to Starseer Dec 2019 #115

Mad Max IV, starring...starring...um...uhh... VOX Dec 2019 #141

Insane!! After the first horrendous accident - The first gigantic lawsuit will stop this! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2019 #149

Actually it won't. redqueen Dec 2019 #164

Lumpers, yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2019 #150

How nice. DFW Dec 2019 #151

But you feel safe with 40,000 human drivers deaths a year! Hmmmm. Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #161

Nice try DFW Dec 2019 #167

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether you want to or not. redqueen Dec 2019 #170

Bullshit New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #174

It has to happen. It's just a matter of when. Will we be proactive, redqueen Dec 2019 #176

Some things will be automated. Some will not. DFW Dec 2019 #178

It's not my line of work to do so. redqueen Dec 2019 #181

My job has analytical skills and people skills, and both are equally necessary DFW Dec 2019 #187

Sure there will be accidents and deaths..... USALiberal Dec 2019 #173

No. New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #175

True, which is why we need leaders to start addressing this issue. redqueen Dec 2019 #182

People missed horse and buggy's too, and full service gas stations and I guess ATMs were evil too! n USALiberal Dec 2019 #191

Nah, you're being disingenous, but that's ok New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #197

Nice try! nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #199

Same to you. nt New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #207

I'm still waiting for when people are willing to fly in unmanned drone 747s. DFW Dec 2019 #185

One thing about a self driving vehicle a computer is not doc03 Dec 2019 #152

I wonder if truck driver will have jobs in 10 yrs. Joe941 Dec 2019 #160

It wasn't stopped when luddites tried and it won't now either. redqueen Dec 2019 #165

"Far fewer " isn't good enough. Nt New Breed Leader Dec 2019 #168

Neither are all these gig jobs and part-time jobs. redqueen Dec 2019 #169

This is going to be a huge and positive change for this country. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #172

I heard a great report on NPR this week about long-haul trucking... The Valley Below Dec 2019 #183

Great matt819 Dec 2019 #184

No, we are simply undergoing the completely predictable results of technological advancement. redqueen Dec 2019 #188

There is zero chance autonomous self-driving trucks or cars will happen, at least before strong AI. gulliver Dec 2019 #186

They will have a human driver able to monitor and link to trucks remotely. redqueen Dec 2019 #190

Zero chance of that. gulliver Dec 2019 #195

The software is further along than you think. redqueen Dec 2019 #198

It will no doubt happen soon, 5-10 years. nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #196