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Kaleva

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51. Most progressives have empathy for others. When they hurt, we hurt.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:19 PM
Dec 2019

I find it very hurtful when children are the victims of gun violence or just because the gun wasn't properly secured. I think of a probable Trump supporter whose 3 year old was killed when the child found a gun in the closet of a family friend who was staying over. The father stressed that guns were not to blame.

Trump supporters, regardless of financial situation or level of education, would like to see a women's right to chose heavily restricted or even banned.

"The Mythology Of Trump’s ‘Working Class’ Support
His voters are better off economically compared with most Americans."

"The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000, based on estimates derived from exit polls and Census Bureau data. That’s lower than the $91,000 median for Kasich voters. But it’s well above the national median household income of about $56,000. It’s also higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters, which is around $61,000 for both."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

"Among people who said they voted for Trump in the general election, 35 percent had household incomes under $50,000 per year (the figure was also 35 percent among non-Hispanic whites), almost exactly the percentage in NBC’s March 2016 survey. Trump’s voters weren’t overwhelmingly poor. In the general election, like the primary, about two thirds of Trump supporters came from the better-off half of the economy."

https://www.nationalmemo.com/data-show-most-trump-voters-were-middle-income-not-working-class/?cn-reloaded=1

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Or Maybe ... PBC_Democrat Dec 2019 #1
Correct Blue_Adept Dec 2019 #2
Don't feed the troll. we can do it Dec 2019 #7
I agree with PBC pintobean Dec 2019 #14
I'm with pintobean and kaleva Recursion Dec 2019 #20
+1 Shrek Dec 2019 #21
Reaching these people PBC_Democrat Dec 2019 #25
There've already been studies on why they vote the way they do. It's primarily racism and ignorance. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #38
And what has Trump possibly done for other people's interests hadEnuf Dec 2019 #13
You've gotta be kidding. Duppers Dec 2019 #18
oh, suuuuure they do yaesu Dec 2019 #26
What are some interests that make working poor and working class people vote for Trump? Flaleftist Dec 2019 #54
my theory is pretty straightforward.... quickesst Dec 2019 #3
It's how we're brought up. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #22
it is by far.... quickesst Dec 2019 #31
Another poster said these vermin hated more than they loved. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #46
Maybe a lot of Americans, gab13by13 Dec 2019 #4
it's sad to say NJCher Dec 2019 #11
+ 1. nt iluvtennis Dec 2019 #19
This rusty fender Dec 2019 #32
Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders because they like his folksy accent and want to kairos12 Dec 2019 #5
They don't. I want to banish that phrase from our vocabulary Recursion Dec 2019 #6
yep Demovictory9 Dec 2019 #10
👍🏾 bermudat Dec 2019 #17
this treestar Dec 2019 #28
This, exactly. dchill Dec 2019 #30
No such thing. paleotn Dec 2019 #37
That doesn't impact my point Recursion Dec 2019 #44
And they want those things.... paleotn Dec 2019 #45
Which doesn't matter Recursion Dec 2019 #48
Stupid people are... GeorgeGist Dec 2019 #53
Sometimes they are foolish and misinformed. Flaleftist Dec 2019 #55
They certainly do vote against their own best economic interest. VOX Dec 2019 #68
Best interests rso Dec 2019 #8
So there aren't good people on both sides? You'd better tell what's his name. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #23
Sadly, some people require someone to hate dlk Dec 2019 #9
Just because people vote against OUR best interests doesn't mean they are voting aginst their own Kaleva Dec 2019 #12
You mean when farmers and outdoorsmen vote for those bribed by polluters CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #24
Many of the "religious" right have always been hypocritical Kaleva Dec 2019 #33
Haggard was regularly meeting a male prostitute at a Colorado motel. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #47
most, the largest majority of tRump voters are people who will be harmed by fascism yaesu Dec 2019 #29
You and I will be hurt but not them. They are eager for it. Kaleva Dec 2019 #35
Actually, I won't.... paleotn Dec 2019 #39
Most progressives have empathy for others. When they hurt, we hurt. Kaleva Dec 2019 #51
Surely you've been around here long enough to know that for many DUers hughee99 Dec 2019 #42
We're Democrats. The root word "Demos" is Greek for People. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #49
So because of the name someone picked for the party more than hughee99 Dec 2019 #50
I was referring to us caring about ALL people, thus protecting the social safety nets. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #52
they actually vote to "hurt/punish" the other side Locrian Dec 2019 #15
Propaganda and control of the media. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #16
For propaganda to work, you need a receptive audience. Kaleva Dec 2019 #27
Exactly. Old, rather nefarious saying in the south.... paleotn Dec 2019 #36
We've had 30 years of unchecked, non-stop right wing propaganda hadEnuf Dec 2019 #56
And yet it's had no effect on us because we are not receptive to it. Kaleva Dec 2019 #57
Most are not as tuned-in to politics as people on DU. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #58
Millions who voted for Hillary are not as tuned into politics like we at DU are. Kaleva Dec 2019 #59
Do you think that right wing media has had no effect in swaying people? hadEnuf Dec 2019 #60
Who listens to or watches right wing media but right wingers? Kaleva Dec 2019 #61
So I take it you think right wing media has had no effect hadEnuf Dec 2019 #62
what percentage of the swayable middle watches Fox or listens to RW radio? Kaleva Dec 2019 #63
What percentage doesn't? Sounds like a questions for the pollsters don't you think? hadEnuf Dec 2019 #65
They aren't pouring millions into it. They are making millions off of it. Kaleva Dec 2019 #66
That's only part of the story. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #67
It's often wise to read the source rather then just an interpertation of the source. Kaleva Dec 2019 #71
The article is not completely conclusive either way, which the posted quote points out. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #72
Yellow journalism has been around since before the founding of our nation. Kaleva Dec 2019 #73
Thank you and the same to you. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #74
Down south where I grew up... paleotn Dec 2019 #34
Whenever people talk of voting against their interests, they leave out the word "economic." Garrett78 Dec 2019 #40
K & R whole thread. Duppers Dec 2019 #41
we can be so easily misled scarytomcat Dec 2019 #43
We learn facts to avoid making the same mistakes Esperanto.Mark Dec 2019 #64
Most of trump's support came from Upper Middle Class white people... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #69
Good one. ooky Dec 2019 #70
K&R ck4829 Dec 2019 #75
I don't understand the disagreement in this thread with this assertion. rainin Dec 2019 #76
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