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K&R - nt Ohio Joe Sep 2012 #1
The only error. Tansy_Gold Sep 2012 #2
Beautifully stated. redqueen Sep 2012 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #3
not legal in all states, not legal at all, not legal in all states, LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #4
Typical gaspee Sep 2012 #5
Given the current culture of blaming JoeyT Sep 2012 #7
No, a thousand times no. Tansy_Gold Sep 2012 #8
"Polite and accommodating little victim" ???? gollygee Sep 2012 #13
It is unusual to open DU in the morning and see DURHAM D Sep 2012 #15
i see it too much on du anymore. this is why, when we continually point the finger at repugs seabeyond Sep 2012 #20
Is it, really? Posteritatis Sep 2012 #31
I had the same thought. redqueen Sep 2012 #37
No. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #40
This. nt. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #49
There's a lot of easily accessed exceptionally hateful porn Burma Jones Sep 2012 #9
Many would like to pretend that that stuff isn't very popular, redqueen Sep 2012 #11
Nine comments before someone blamed porn 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #44
1 post in and you dismiss the Op, womens concern, to attack. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #59
I did nothing of the sort 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #60
Not ALL Porn Burma Jones Sep 2012 #64
There are no real scientific studies linking porn use to violence against women 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #65
This reminds me of the cartoon I posted on DU2 last year. Brickbat Sep 2012 #10
I missed this one the first time around, so thanks for sharing it again. KitSileya Sep 2012 #12
You're welcome. Brickbat Sep 2012 #88
Sad to get a reminder how many longtime DU names I never see anymore... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #18
That's the damn truth, right there. Brickbat Sep 2012 #89
Thanks. redqueen Sep 2012 #19
It was a frustrating conversation, and it's frustrating to have it over and over again. Brickbat Sep 2012 #90
i re read some of that thread. as i said above, a reminder that misogyny is not party specific. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #21
Yep. Some of the worst woman-haters I know are self-described progressives. Brickbat Sep 2012 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Sep 2012 #14
This is a clear example of Schrødinger's rapist. KitSileya Sep 2012 #16
if any man has a problem with that, they should take it up with other men, not with us! seabeyond Sep 2012 #22
Yeah - I've been reading Captain Awkward these past few weeks. KitSileya Sep 2012 #27
Maybe I'm not... Johnny Noshoes Sep 2012 #177
This: CrispyQ Sep 2012 #68
"What is so hard about this, for men to understand? " Scout Sep 2012 #69
I really, really dislike the Schrodinger's Rapist idea LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #125
You don't think most women think like this, consciously or sub-consciously? KitSileya Sep 2012 #131
I went through it a little after I was raped LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #134
It seems like you're saying bullying is the victim's fault. redqueen Sep 2012 #146
I don't always write well when it's late and I'm tired LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #166
"on a daily basis"? no. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #137
Terrifying story gollygee Sep 2012 #17
books are always going to draw attention Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #25
We're also told not to listen to iPods gollygee Sep 2012 #28
so many rules to not being harrassed, assaulted and raped.... seabeyond Sep 2012 #41
any Apple shit you wear or hold (on public transit) is like painting a big target on your forehead datasuspect Sep 2012 #72
You're kidding. Seriously? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #87
Yep. Self defense advice often includes a warning not to wear them. redqueen Sep 2012 #96
I think I remember hearing it LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #114
I once asked a regular customer if he was feeling better Solly Mack Sep 2012 #23
that happens on a daily basis? hfojvt Sep 2012 #24
LOL Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #29
If you're nice, you could end up being treated to a view of the man rubbing himself, redqueen Sep 2012 #30
hfojvt does have a point Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #43
maybe if more women and girls were a little more aggressive, more men would no longer feel a right seabeyond Sep 2012 #45
Possibly Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #50
then again, it would be on them. look, women are continually told to speak softy to the male cause seabeyond Sep 2012 #54
excellent points... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #57
Amen, sea. n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #58
This! You said it perfectly - we can't win. redqueen Sep 2012 #62
You are so right, seabeyond. KitSileya Sep 2012 #63
perfectly said ... especially the last paragraph. n/t Scout Sep 2012 #85
well for my part hfojvt Sep 2012 #130
"Sometimes hello just means hello" KitSileya Sep 2012 #133
No. The writer seems to be permanently frightened LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #135
I see your argument, KitSileya Sep 2012 #136
12 yr old niece sat quietly, hunched, as a over 40 waiter rubbed his crotch on her pouring her water seabeyond Sep 2012 #138
^What you said LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #165
I recently decided she has the right idea. redqueen Sep 2012 #46
Ironically she wasn't sharp enough to see through "the businessman" Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #53
again, this has nothing to do with the issue. it is not about her. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #55
and no... you should have told the man to fuck off.... lol as i said seabeyond Sep 2012 #56
can you give us a link? I missed that. nt raccoon Sep 2012 #82
Sent you a PM. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #93
Oh come on! SouthernLiberal Sep 2012 #66
"she can learn to properly read guys??" TED BUNDY had the appearance of a nice, well-spoken guy raccoon Sep 2012 #81
I just thought there was some happy medium Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #86
Honestly, after the umpteenth time, it is understandable that you get so frustrated, KitSileya Sep 2012 #34
Yep, it's just about everywhere. redqueen Sep 2012 #38
Why should women "be nice" to people who are bothering them? n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #36
Absolutely! KitSileya Sep 2012 #42
How much of a bother is it to have a little conversation? hfojvt Sep 2012 #132
The person being interrupted gets to decide whether it's a bother or not. gkhouston Sep 2012 #139
Yes, this. I have had the same experience. n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #144
It's not my job to entertain strangers. n/t MadrasT Sep 2012 #141
I don't know, how much bother is having a little conversation? KitSileya Sep 2012 #142
Exactly. MadrasT Sep 2012 #143
None at all, ***IF*** you're interested in having a conversation. redqueen Sep 2012 #149
but is it ridiculous to assume that they could, or should hfojvt Sep 2012 #162
Women are not free therapists, nor mind readers. redqueen Sep 2012 #163
You've had strange men masturbate while talking about your tits in public? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #173
I don't hfojvt Sep 2012 #175
My daughter is 6'1" and model beautiful... Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #47
OMG, Now You Have Done It RobinA Sep 2012 #74
generally it happened when i was in thought, but regardless, it would always take a moment for it to seabeyond Sep 2012 #77
Will Wheaton is 40 years old? hedgehog Sep 2012 #26
Public transportation in LA sounds simply lovely. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #32
I Use It Every Day DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #108
K&R. Bookmarking for later. - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #33
Rec'd for the content, and for Wheaton, who has a long history of being a better man than most. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #35
I can't tell you how many "nice guys" I hear complaining MadrasT Sep 2012 #39
I was in an encounter like that... JHB Sep 2012 #48
It is truly not all that uncommon. redqueen Sep 2012 #51
it is an interesting dilemma it puts all in. i agree, seabeyond Sep 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Kurska Sep 2012 #52
I'm trying to figure out what my reaction would have been, MineralMan Sep 2012 #67
I'm sure I would have put myself between him and her. dawg Sep 2012 #70
i like listening to you men seabeyond Sep 2012 #71
I wish I knew what the solution was. Heck, I wish I knew what I'd do in that position... but I don't LanternWaste Sep 2012 #73
Raising awareness is the solutuon. redqueen Sep 2012 #75
I do take issue with this bit: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Sep 2012 #78
Most men I know won't go up against a group of guys solo either LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #79
Except she didn't say that was what a good person should do 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #80
Yes, the word was carefully chosen to reflect the fact that LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #84
way to totally misinterpret what you quoted. Scout Sep 2012 #83
I didn't misinterpret at all 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #94
Funny enough.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #91
Besides having separate trains 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #95
That was one solution used in Japan. redqueen Sep 2012 #98
Given the crowding there 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #112
Funny, when the ultra--Orthodox Jews in NYC want to put hifiguy Sep 2012 #117
I've noticed a few instances when the religious right and the far left 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #119
I'm speaking as an American man... MicaelS Sep 2012 #157
Thank you so much for caring. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #164
A man and a woman are on a train LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #120
I was more referring 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #121
Ah LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #122
Phrasing it a little differently: two men are on a train. gkhouston Sep 2012 #124
Often, unfortunately LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #126
Quite often actually... opiate69 Sep 2012 #127
I've seen that before, quite a bit 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #160
I would say that you're the one not listening. gkhouston Sep 2012 #168
Except that if you were paying attention 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #170
"White knight" in that context is an MRA term. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #97
lol opiate69 Sep 2012 #99
There is one listing in the geek feminism wiki which I've never seen used that way in context. redqueen Sep 2012 #101
might want to expand your reading list a bit... opiate69 Sep 2012 #103
Context helps. redqueen Sep 2012 #104
right.... opiate69 Sep 2012 #106
LMAO redqueen Sep 2012 #107
Well... opiate69 Sep 2012 #109
Oh, I'm sorry.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #100
Reading this thread makes me glad I am Asperger's. hifiguy Sep 2012 #115
I've been diagnosed with it, too Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #140
I suck at this too, but here's my advice: dawg Sep 2012 #145
Doesn't sound like you suck at this to me. redqueen Sep 2012 #148
Thanks. dawg Sep 2012 #150
Yeah, that hesitance probably shows... redqueen Sep 2012 #152
"Make eye contact with her. Smile." i was going to suggest this... seabeyond Sep 2012 #151
I know lots of people who seem to treat the opposite sex as "things" not people. dawg Sep 2012 #153
This is so true. MadrasT Sep 2012 #154
Making eye contact and smiling without saying anything 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #155
i was telling you how i, as a woman think and feel. and.... when make eye contact and smile, seabeyond Sep 2012 #156
You're speaking only for yourself but giving advice 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #158
the one bit of advice I would add to dawg's LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #174
Who used the term "quietly creepy"? nt redqueen Sep 2012 #147
This Aspie keeps quiet because I'm terrified of looking like a creepy "nice guy". Odin2005 Sep 2012 #161
Is there anything that isn't a potential MRA code-word? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #110
Apparently not.. Upton Sep 2012 #111
Rad-fem is an MRA code-word 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #113
No doubt.. Upton Sep 2012 #128
BUZZZ!!!! opiate69 Sep 2012 #129
For some, no there is not. nt hifiguy Sep 2012 #118
Yes, she gets to define her opinion of what a "real man" is. I don't see her gkhouston Sep 2012 #123
If I were to define a "real woman" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #159
Again, you assume that the promise of violence falls under the umbrella of "nice person gkhouston Sep 2012 #167
The full quote: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #169
You think she did. I think she didn't. If she'd said, "He is a nice person who offered to beat up gkhouston Sep 2012 #171
My husband relayed a story to me about witnessing a woman getting hit on at a train stop nadine_mn Sep 2012 #102
wHil wHeaton? DonRedwood Sep 2012 #105
Cool wHip. hifiguy Sep 2012 #116
Not sure why some men are seeing this as some kind of contest. It isn't. redqueen Sep 2012 #172
That is mighty FurioG Sep 2012 #176
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