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Deb

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10. Our experience with a total knee replacement

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:06 AM

Dec 2019

87 year old pt sent home to suffer alone -24 hrs after an uncomplicated "elective" knee replacement "short stay". Wtf?

Angry nurses explained how the new rules are sending shocked and unprepared patients away from necessary care.

My advice is to learn home health care, patient advocacy and DO NOT sign your loved one out until they can be assured a safe place to recuperate.

Medicare as it stands can be horribly cruel.

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Medicare patients end up owing huge hospital bills if they enter under "observation" status instead [View all] pnwmom Dec 2019 OP

Kick dalton99a Dec 2019 #1

Whoa! Thanks, mom, for alerting us to this! Karadeniz Dec 2019 #2

And people, even some on DU, think we do not need a single payer system. LonePirate Dec 2019 #3

Fortunately, "some people" are not our Democratic Party. Hortensis Dec 2019 #33

These are Medicare rules! forthemiddle Dec 2019 #36

I don't think you understand the concept of "single payer" LonePirate Dec 2019 #39

I do understand forthemiddle Dec 2019 #52

Umm.... this is Medicare? (nt) Recursion Dec 2019 #40

Reread The Title Please (nt) ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #42

When my mom was in the hospital the doctor fought hard to keep my mom AJT Dec 2019 #4

Why would two doctors enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan DURHAM D Dec 2019 #5

Many Advantage plans are every bit as good PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #19

When I retired in May, I had so much trouble figuring out the benefits plans I had to choose tblue37 Dec 2019 #43

I disagree with you. llmart Dec 2019 #61

I am literally in the process of signing up for Medicare... GReedDiamond Dec 2019 #6

Get your Medicare A and B. Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #14

I'm doing the A&B thing, for sure... GReedDiamond Dec 2019 #17

Don't forget part D JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2019 #35

OK, thanks...nt GReedDiamond Dec 2019 #64

Are Medicare Advantage plans allowed to drop sick patients? democrattotheend Dec 2019 #18

No. They aren't MineralMan Dec 2019 #46

No dalton99a Dec 2019 #47

I'm on an Advantage Plan and I just love it. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #20

I know someone with an Advantage plan recent hospitalization $80k Captain Zero Dec 2019 #25

"so far." llmart Dec 2019 #63

pure "original" Medicare also has no networks yellowdogintexas Dec 2019 #21

Sure it does. Not all doctors take Medicare Recursion Dec 2019 #41

But if they don't, can't you submit the bill to Medicare and get reimbursed? democrattotheend Jan 2020 #66

I mean, private insurers do that, too Recursion Jan 2020 #67

I'm copying this in my Medicare folder. ooky Dec 2019 #7

I had previously thought observation status was limited to 24 hours... RockRaven Dec 2019 #8

I think its 72 hours. If they cant diagnose and discharge you in 3 days, Volaris Dec 2019 #24

I was placed in observation at a high cost to me. Yonnie3 Dec 2019 #9

Our experience with a total knee replacement Deb Dec 2019 #10

I have known about this for years. Dem2theMax Dec 2019 #11

Print and Distribute Wothy Lucid Dreamer Dec 2019 #51

You are very welcome. Dem2theMax Dec 2019 #58

Yes, D2M, thanks so much for the tips. Experience in dealing w/ the 'system' goes a long way. SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #57

You are so very welcome as well. Dem2theMax Dec 2019 #59

Ha heh ha! The rusty years is good, I'll remember this! I like to bring people along too, SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #60

You just gave all of us great advice as well! Dem2theMax Dec 2019 #65

My late DH was admitted "for observation" marybourg Dec 2019 #12

You probably had Part B also. The article isn't clear that that was the problem, pnwmom Dec 2019 #16

Here's what the physician said (and it confuses me) ... progree Dec 2019 #26

Supplement plans don't take the place of Part A or Part B. pnwmom Dec 2019 #27

That's how I see it too. Certainly the case in Minnesota -- you enroll in A and B, and then go get progree Dec 2019 #30

I think his confusion is what's confusing us. It could be, perhaps, that pnwmom Dec 2019 #32

If he's still employed he doesn't need to sign up for part B forthemiddle Dec 2019 #38

i thought of that later ... but it sure sounds like he has lousy employer-provided insurance progree Dec 2019 #48

Yes, he had part B, as well as a Supplement plan that stepped in marybourg Dec 2019 #49

Why do you say he had Part B when he says he didn't, and why $30,000 in bills he has progree Dec 2019 #50

I was responding to pnwmom#16. marybourg Dec 2019 #54

Sorry, i now see you were talking about your DH, and not the physician in the article. progree Dec 2019 #55

Easy to get tangled in complex threads. We all do it. marybourg Dec 2019 #56

Medicare needs protection. The GOP want all our $$$. OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #13

Omg! WTH! Greed needs a spanks! OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #15

So many people think Medicare is free or free after paying very modest premiums progree Dec 2019 #22

From the FWIW Dept. Stonepounder Dec 2019 #23

Your Medicare Advantage still would have left you in the lurch, if you didn't have pnwmom Dec 2019 #28

Probably. But straight Medicare would have also. Stonepounder Dec 2019 #29

Actually straight Medicare doesn't cover drug costs except those administered while in the hospital progree Dec 2019 #31

So legislation needs to be passed to correct these greedy bastards. Yeah, good luck with that. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #34

ALWAYS ASK how they plan to admit you and then REFUSE, but stay put! PuraVidaDreamin Dec 2019 #37

THIS - THIS - THIS - THIS - THIS KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #45

This happens on regular insurance too. - Always Ask. KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #44

+1. dalton99a Dec 2019 #53

omg.. they'll do anything to create a stupid madeup gigantic bill Demovictory9 Dec 2019 #62