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lastlib

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9. Even though the language...

Reply to rzemanfl (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:43 AM

Dec 2019

...is "except in cases of impeachment", the actual meaning, and intent of the Framers is "except in cases where impeachment is the remedy", i.e., high crimes and misdemeanors. These are exclusively the province of Congress, so the president can't pardon someone for "high crimes"--only for what are essentially statutory crimes subject to prosecution in courts.

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Seeing a lot of nonsense on Facebook about impeachment.... [View all] lastlib Dec 2019 OP

I'm missing something...these sound the same to me! Karadeniz Dec 2019 #1

A subsequent president can pardon a convicted and removed president for crimes committed DFW Dec 2019 #2

He can be pardoned by future presidents louis-t Dec 2019 #3

Nixon wasn't impeached. CaptainTruth Dec 2019 #5

Nonetheless, Ford pardoned him for crimes louis-t Dec 2019 #12

Nonetheless, Nixon wasn't impeached. So the clause in the Constitution pnwmom Dec 2019 #13

Yeah jberryhill Dec 2019 #4

It's interesting language though. Is the reference to impeachment or to the underlying crime rzemanfl Dec 2019 #6

Even though the language... lastlib Dec 2019 #9

I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2019 #10

I have never had 2naSalit Dec 2019 #7

Everyone, close your facebook account. They allow lying, repug ads and... brush Dec 2019 #8

Impeachment equals indictment. The senate trial is a separate process. CottonBear Dec 2019 #11