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38. What evidence is there for that? n/t

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Strong circumstantial evidence says vote totals were altered in 2016 (but few will admit it). [View all] triron Dec 2019 OP

I have believed it from day 1. onecaliberal Dec 2019 #1

Me too. maryallen Dec 2019 #8

Yeppers. catrose Dec 2019 #28

I'm with you. llmart Dec 2019 #64

I wonder if we'll ever know for sure? n/t napi21 Dec 2019 #2

I have long suspected that the meeting Feinstein and Grassley emerged from looking visibly onecaliberal Dec 2019 #11

I also have had a strong feelin that they have Zoonart Dec 2019 #29

"They will only say they cannot confirm that fact." - false. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #3

Yes, it certainly doesn't exhibit credibility when "countable" states falsehoods in their story. PSPS Dec 2019 #9

If the hackers did not change election results Turbineguy Dec 2019 #4

I am pretty confident they did. Lexee Dec 2019 #5

Not really --Each side knows only one side karynnj Dec 2019 #36

I'm remembering the story of Diebold, who manufactures voting machines, regularly CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #6

I have also been convinced of it since day 1, pnwest Dec 2019 #7

I have, too. CozyMystery Dec 2019 #19

The polls did not lie Aquaria Dec 2019 #20

After Bush vs. Gore and then Kerry they said people were not admitting to voting for Bush. Also Pepsidog Dec 2019 #42

Thank you for explaining that. nt CozyMystery Dec 2019 #71

It also happened in 2004 ... aggiesal Dec 2019 #25

Why electronic voting is a bad idea... ret5hd Dec 2019 #26

It did. Remember Ohio, 2004 DFW Dec 2019 #30

I sure remember that - and this article by Greg Palast: Kerry Won. Here Are the Facts Rhiannon12866 Dec 2019 #40

Don't forget 2012 when Karl Rove was smugly declaring that Ohio would go to Romney dflprincess Dec 2019 #45

Non auditable paperless electronic voting machines..?? aeromanKC Dec 2019 #10

Wayne County Michigan Had Like 70,000 Undervotes DallasNE Dec 2019 #12

Where do you get 70,000 undervotes ? MichMan Dec 2019 #31

Don't Have The Old Data At Hand DallasNE Dec 2019 #49

You said 70,000 were on one county alone MichMan Dec 2019 #50

Here You Go DallasNE Dec 2019 #56

Detroit is in Wayne County MichMan Dec 2019 #60

I Don't Know Michigan Law DallasNE Dec 2019 #65

In Michigan it is a three person commission composed of three elected officials MichMan Dec 2019 #67

Thank you for your genuine arguments. No matter what there will be persistent naysayers. triron Dec 2019 #68

Of course the votes were switched Botany Dec 2019 #13

I predict the naysayers are coming soon. triron Dec 2019 #32

a lot of them are troll bots .... Botany Dec 2019 #35

Not by the exit polls -- she was winning in polls before the election karynnj Dec 2019 #37

more of the same stopdiggin Dec 2019 #14

Follow Greg Palast LittleGirl Dec 2019 #15

The Russians did not need to alter votes because the GOP already had done it. Ford_Prefect Dec 2019 #16

that's the trouble with electrons -- people can't see 'em ... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #17

The elections were stolen malaise Dec 2019 #18

LOL! Nahhhhh. The Russians infiltrated multiple states' voting systems, but all they Squinch Dec 2019 #21

That's the conclusion I came to. nt Ilsa Dec 2019 #62

Article is from July, 2018. The Root updated it a few days later: sl8 Dec 2019 #22

They were threatened. triron Dec 2019 #33

What evidence is there for that? n/t sl8 Dec 2019 #38

Gatekeepers not liking this story. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #23

This is precisely why I fear another Trump Victory sellitman Dec 2019 #24

There was vote alterations in many of the states, counties, districts Iliyah Dec 2019 #27

I believe they did hack voter counts in 2016. So why the cover-up? YOHABLO Dec 2019 #34

Proabably one of those "for the good of the country" cover ups. dflprincess Dec 2019 #47

We need to understand that Russians are the best coders in the world FakeNoose Dec 2019 #39

I never understood why the press and Democrats were so Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #41

Don't you think they won't concede ther might be a problem with vote tampering because they may napi21 Dec 2019 #43

I guess. But anyone with half a brain should be able to Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #46

I suspect this is why Trump and his Little Eichmanns are fearless about 2020. n/t TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #44

Exactly. All preordained. And trump has a mighty Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #48

I suspect any Russian hack was in place before 2016. Just needed the right candidate. TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #54

You bet! triron Dec 2019 #57

"Few wil admit it" brooklynite Dec 2019 #51

Wondering JT45242 Dec 2019 #52

I think this is what Trump and Stone know Baked Potato Dec 2019 #53

Was there always a third party candidate that seemed to get way more votes than expected rainy Dec 2019 #55

She is definitely a candidate. triron Dec 2019 #58

Article tries (with little success) to conflate supposition with established proof stopdiggin Dec 2019 #59

The GOP's been doing it since Bush - so it stands to reason they'd let Russians (& Isrealis) in too sandensea Dec 2019 #61

This has been known for years. It's really not news. Joe941 Dec 2019 #63

knr triron Dec 2019 #66

kick for visibility triron Dec 2019 #69

kick for visibility triron Dec 2019 #70