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28. Are you saying individuals can decide which laws they will obey based on

Wed Dec 25, 2019, 10:04 PM

Dec 2019

their opinion of which law is fair or unfair? If everyone did that we would have a lawless society. Might as well fire the legislators.

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Governor Northam owes it to Democratic voters of Virginia to enforce the law. [View all] jcmaine72 Dec 2019 OP

Do you feel the same way regarding sanctuary cities for undocumented immigrants? MichMan Dec 2019 #1

Brave question....I'm betting there won't be an answer...there will be a jury but no answer. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #4

How is making a false equivalency "brave"? jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #10

Nothing "false" equivalency about it...you don't want to answer it AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #16

You raise a fair point! at140 Dec 2019 #27

lately, it seems, a lot of effort is made picking fights CatWoman Dec 2019 #18

People who came here for a better life are not as concerning as ignorant white wing gun-humpers. Hoyt Dec 2019 #29

you make a good point stopdiggin Dec 2019 #5

Apples and oranges. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #9

Are you saying individuals can decide which laws they will obey based on at140 Dec 2019 #28

Is that what I wrote? jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #35

I read your post again and, at140 Dec 2019 #39

Thank you. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #45

Our Constitution contains the Bill of Rights. ... spin Dec 2019 #36

You're talking about asking local officials to enforce federal laws. NYC Liberal Dec 2019 #11

The 2nd A is Constitutional,(shh,Supremacy Clause)..the local officers appear.. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #15

And, sssshhhhh, the states have the right to write rules ... marble falls Dec 2019 #19

There's a difference between "not violating the law" and "enforcing it". NYC Liberal Dec 2019 #46

Since when have local police had the right Sewa Dec 2019 #54

They are not state officials. former9thward Dec 2019 #32

I don't live in Virginia but instead in Florida. ... spin Dec 2019 #2

Someone who feels the need to bury guns and ammunition Bettie Dec 2019 #65

Such people seem to have a bleak view of the future of our nation. (n/t) spin Dec 2019 #74

Conservatives will always be with us, no matter what happens Hortensis Dec 2019 #3

" This is still a democracy"...no not really. We have to stop that fallacy. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #7

If you don't vote, why are you here? Hortensis Dec 2019 #8

I do vote....every election....I just voted for a Dog Warden last month. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #13

What is your point with that?????? marble falls Dec 2019 #20

They are breaking the law...thus crimiinalized themselves...as for sanctuary cities...that is quite Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #72

Those "Gun Sanctuaries" are full of people that have never comitted a crime. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #6

1041 gun deaths in Virginia 2018 Sewa Dec 2019 #12

1500 died from drug OD's in the same yr..almost 1/3rd more than from guns AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #14

My point was quite clear Sewa Dec 2019 #17

Didn't change crap or subject...I'll ask again..what's your point? AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #24

And its also true that there are more drug users than gun owners ... marble falls Dec 2019 #21

Except for...the prefatory clause doesn't eliminate the operative clause of the 2nd AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #25

Sure there is. The right to the pursuit of happiness ... marble falls Dec 2019 #40

Agree, public safety trumps the individual's rights onetexan Dec 2019 #57

And probably many of those gun deaths are not in the sanctuary areas. Kaleva Dec 2019 #22

Right?? The vast majority aren't. AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #26

No, but the guns causing such deaths in non-sanctuary areas come from somewhere, right? jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #52

Detroit and the surrounding suburbs have about 30+ gun shops Kaleva Dec 2019 #61

Full of people like this, and you know it. Hoyt Dec 2019 #30

Throughout the years I have known a lot of gun owners. ... spin Dec 2019 #33

No they are not, majority of gun-strokers are GOPers and a bunch are like this beloved killer -- Hoyt Dec 2019 #34

I suspect you don't really know many gun owners. ... spin Dec 2019 #38

You had me till "Florida". I live in rural Texas and I've owned firearms ... marble falls Dec 2019 #41

What generalization are you referring to? ... spin Dec 2019 #47

These two ... marble falls Dec 2019 #51

In my experience most people I worked with before I retired ... spin Dec 2019 #55

Good post! I am a gun owner and at140 Dec 2019 #42

Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Dec 2019 #48

George Zman said the same thing, right before he stormed out after arguing Hoyt Dec 2019 #50

People get attacked on the street. ... spin Dec 2019 #56

I am much different than Zman...for several reasons at140 Dec 2019 #62

Non-toters, those not attracted to assault style weapons, a gun or two, etc., are not big concern. Hoyt Dec 2019 #64

Thank you, a 9mm is adequate at140 Dec 2019 #69

I've shot more gunz than most, but grew up. Been to gun shows, stores, ranges, Hoyt Dec 2019 #49

There's certainly plenty of those types hee-hawing their way through jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #37

Sheriffs are elected officials and they'll probably be voted out if they enforce the law. Kaleva Dec 2019 #23

So they're there to be re-elected and screw any inconveniant law. marble falls Dec 2019 #44

If that's what the voters want, that's what will happen. Kaleva Dec 2019 #60

These '2nd Amendment' sanctuaries are a Hal Turner pet project PghTiny Dec 2019 #31

I haven't heard that name in long time. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #43

The problem Northam has Ex Lurker Dec 2019 #53

I hate to break it to you, but many gun deaths are in RVA. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #58

Well, I hate to break this to you, but the guns causing those deaths certainly are. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #59

The source is not as cut and dried as you make it for simplicity's sake. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #75

I never wrote there are thousands of gunsmiths manufacturing street guns. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #76

Uh oh, looks like the excrement with arms and legs at Discussionist are stirred up by your post too. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #63

Looks like they are not getting what they hoped Kaleva Dec 2019 #66

They seem genuinely shocked by the fact that, unlike DI, a diverse array of opinions are shared here jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #68

True. Great thing about DU is that vigourous debate, within the rules, can happen here. Kaleva Dec 2019 #70

Absolutely! The contrast couldn't be greater. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #71

Who cares what those brainless DImwits think? jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #67

No one really cares. hadEnuf Dec 2019 #73