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In reply to the discussion: "... most men, even good caring men, have no clue what we go through on a daily basis..." [View all]LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)135. No. The writer seems to be permanently frightened
and that attracts bullies. I do think she needs more aggression than she's got. It seems like she's just lashing out from fear rather than getting aggressive out of anger,
The most common approach is to walk up to where I am sitting with body language that practically screams LEAVE ME ALONE and sit down next to me or as close to me as possible
I went through my usual routine. I told them loudly and firmly that I wanted to be left alone to read my book.
I tell them to leave me the fuck alone, stand up, and move to the front of the car near the three other people on the train
They spend the next two stops shouting at me from the back of the car, alternating between trying to sound flirtatious and making fun of me, shouting I bet shes reading Stephanie Meyer! I bet shes reading Twilight or some shit! You reading Twilight or some shit?
What all this says to me (and this is just what I'm getting from one article so it's not gospel): young, not incredibly self-confident, afraid of men and not experienced enough to know how to repel them, is bothered when they think badly of her rejection, lets her fear show in her body language. I'd bet that "body language that screams leave me alone" equals scrunched up in her seat and visibly tense.
Admittedly not much can be done about people like Bicycle Guy short of committing them, but for the rest, how much better does this sound-
The one with his arm draped over onto the back of my seat asked mesurprise what are you reading? I went through my usual routine. I told them loudly and firmly that I was studying ways to amputate hands, and asked if they'd like to be a test subject. They got angry. I tell them I'll leave their girlfriends attached to their arms since I'm such a nice person, stand up, and move to the front of the car near the three other people on the train. They yelled stuff. I wasn't listening. Then they left the train.
Done it. Don't put your hands on me uninvited. I will shrivel you right up like a bucket of ice to the lap. I used her words but mine didn't yell afterward, just called me a bitch.
I think Sea's right. This girl's not yet got out of the habit of being polite, nonthreatening and concerned with how she's thought of. Hopefully she will grow out of it fairly soon.
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"... most men, even good caring men, have no clue what we go through on a daily basis..." [View all]
redqueen
Sep 2012
OP
i see it too much on du anymore. this is why, when we continually point the finger at repugs
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#20
There are no real scientific studies linking porn use to violence against women
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#65
It was a frustrating conversation, and it's frustrating to have it over and over again.
Brickbat
Sep 2012
#90
i re read some of that thread. as i said above, a reminder that misogyny is not party specific. nt
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#21
if any man has a problem with that, they should take it up with other men, not with us!
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#22
any Apple shit you wear or hold (on public transit) is like painting a big target on your forehead
datasuspect
Sep 2012
#72
If you're nice, you could end up being treated to a view of the man rubbing himself,
redqueen
Sep 2012
#30
maybe if more women and girls were a little more aggressive, more men would no longer feel a right
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#45
then again, it would be on them. look, women are continually told to speak softy to the male cause
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#54
12 yr old niece sat quietly, hunched, as a over 40 waiter rubbed his crotch on her pouring her water
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#138
"she can learn to properly read guys??" TED BUNDY had the appearance of a nice, well-spoken guy
raccoon
Sep 2012
#81
Honestly, after the umpteenth time, it is understandable that you get so frustrated,
KitSileya
Sep 2012
#34
You've had strange men masturbate while talking about your tits in public?
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#173
generally it happened when i was in thought, but regardless, it would always take a moment for it to
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#77
Rec'd for the content, and for Wheaton, who has a long history of being a better man than most.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#35
I wish I knew what the solution was. Heck, I wish I knew what I'd do in that position... but I don't
LanternWaste
Sep 2012
#73
I've noticed a few instances when the religious right and the far left
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#119
There is one listing in the geek feminism wiki which I've never seen used that way in context.
redqueen
Sep 2012
#101
i was telling you how i, as a woman think and feel. and.... when make eye contact and smile,
seabeyond
Sep 2012
#156
This Aspie keeps quiet because I'm terrified of looking like a creepy "nice guy".
Odin2005
Sep 2012
#161
Yes, she gets to define her opinion of what a "real man" is. I don't see her
gkhouston
Sep 2012
#123
Again, you assume that the promise of violence falls under the umbrella of "nice person
gkhouston
Sep 2012
#167
You think she did. I think she didn't. If she'd said, "He is a nice person who offered to beat up
gkhouston
Sep 2012
#171
My husband relayed a story to me about witnessing a woman getting hit on at a train stop
nadine_mn
Sep 2012
#102