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Dennis Donovan

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24. Sigh. This isn't only going to be, solely, a conventional war...

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:18 AM

Jan 2020

There will be fighting in Iraq (yet again) for sure. It's the other shit that Iran will likely do - shit they've had planned and has been in place for years, waiting for the time to pull the trigger. Expect cyber attacks on the power grid in the US (notoriously un-secured). Expect airliners to start blowing up over the Atlantic. Expect sleeper cells in the US to start targeting OUR politicians. All of these things are now on the table.

And, if you think the US can defeat Iran in a conventional ground war (ala Iraq, 2003), think again. Iran is no Saddam's Iraq.

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"Oh, so you think Solemani was a good guy?" [View all] Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP

He was a bad guy. kentuck Jan 2020 #1

No, it was not, but then we didn't make that decision. What happens when ... marble falls Jan 2020 #44

+1 sandensea Jan 2020 #77

We have a shortage of adults in the United States unfortunately. nt el_bryanto Jan 2020 #2

What bothers me bdamomma Jan 2020 #112

Bad guy Chuuku Davis Jan 2020 #3

Yes, but will the blowback be worth it? Also, we had numerous opportunities before... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #4

We killed him as he arrived in Iraq to personally lead the attacks on our embassy that is burning braddy Jan 2020 #6

You signing up? Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #7

I did during Vietnam and again when we took on the Soviets in the mid 1980s, but the three times I braddy Jan 2020 #12

Thank you for your service Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #14

Our people in combat arms are not having a sad over killing this monster who was murdering braddy Jan 2020 #18

Who is arguing US servicemen are "having a sad?" LanternWaste Jan 2020 #23

Sigh. This isn't only going to be, solely, a conventional war... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #24

That post has nothing to do with me, all that projecting is in your own mind. braddy Jan 2020 #31

I'm sorry... you lost me. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #32

This entire trivial exchange is too chatty for me. braddy Jan 2020 #34

Um, ok Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #38

Apparently, to some Bettie Jan 2020 #45

They will be returning to Discussionist soon anyway. hadEnuf Jan 2020 #84

Translation: He doesn't care or want to think about it RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #53

STOP IT! ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #68

What does that have to do with the issue? pangaia Jan 2020 #88

If you need to ask that question ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #105

Now we start with the... tonedevil Jan 2020 #103

Are you callng a member of this blog a warmonger? ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #106

I'm saying "he's a veteran"... tonedevil Jan 2020 #108

The only people asking who served ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #109

Perhaps you didn't notice posts 68 and 70... tonedevil Jan 2020 #110

I have no idea what you're talking abiut. ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #111

Your posts give off such a lovely... tonedevil Jan 2020 #115

+++ pangaia Jan 2020 #118

I apparently care more about future veterans than others do RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #104

You think so? ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #107

STOP IT! ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #70

My service is irrelevant - I oppose this action - clearly it's ridiculously planned n/t Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #72

We don't know about the planning. ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #74

Projecting? pangaia Jan 2020 #86

Or attempting to mind read, it sure had nothing to do with me. braddy Jan 2020 #98

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you mean... pangaia Jan 2020 #99

Well if you're going to hit me with logic, mahina Jan 2020 #64

. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #65

Oh, so we don't attempt to neutralize an element responsible for the deaths of American personnel... Marengo Jan 2020 #66

Oh... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #73

"Soleimani should have been put down long ago" pangaia Jan 2020 #89

On that note atreides1 Jan 2020 #56

Ding, Ding, Ding....funny how many seem to forget Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #60

You posted to the wrong person, no mention of "collateral damage" here. braddy Jan 2020 #61

++++++++++ pangaia Jan 2020 #119

First time I have heard that expression, "combat arms troops ." pangaia Jan 2020 #85

Inside the military there are differences, those who serve in combat arms units and elite units are braddy Jan 2020 #96

Part of dotard's re-election campaign, no doubt. US4u2 Jan 2020 #8

Yes. Make himself a hero as defender of wnylib Jan 2020 #102

What happens when another nation decides to drone an American leader ... marble falls Jan 2020 #48

Guilty American Generals earthside Jan 2020 #76

I don't know that Suleimani was a monster but the people of his nation thought ... marble falls Jan 2020 #78

Vlad Putin is a bad guy RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #58

Exactly. He is responsible for destabilizing Europe and the US. Blaukraut Jan 2020 #83

Too bad dumbo didn't do it in secret. Plausible deniability. Nt lostnfound Jan 2020 #75

Yeah, he was a devil, maybe THE devil Mr. Ected Jan 2020 #5

"them" shouldn't have been in Iraq attacking us, Soleimani should have stayed in Iran. braddy Jan 2020 #9

...and "we" should've continued to pull embassy personnel out last week. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #13

We don't need to surrender our embassies to Iran, instead we fought back, in Iraq, not Iran. braddy Jan 2020 #16

That fails to answer the question - pulling civilians out is not a capitulation... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #21

Obviously they didn't see the need to, nor to demonstrate fear unnecessarily, I'm not interested in braddy Jan 2020 #25

Obviously, that was a gigantic mistake... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #28

It isn't obvious to me, write them a letter on strategy and tactics. braddy Jan 2020 #33

First explain what tactics were being used in this event. marble falls Jan 2020 #49

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia Jan 2020 #93

Trump's not a good guy. mountain grammy Jan 2020 #10

Depends on your perspective. He was a good guy and hero to Iranians... brush Jan 2020 #11

Unprovoked? dware Jan 2020 #22

This could have been achieved covertly, giving the US plausible deniability Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #27

I fully agree, dware Jan 2020 #29

It could have been not done at all. Kim is more dangerous than that guy was ... marble falls Jan 2020 #52

Pompeo, et all. pangaia Jan 2020 #97

But it's about rRump getting grandstanding points. defacto7 Jan 2020 #42

No sarcasm needed - you hit the nail on the head. This isn't about taking a bad guy out... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #54

You're right. No sarcasm necessary. defacto7 Jan 2020 #63

Conflict is not certain. and this was a message so no need for deniablilty. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #113

Seriously? He was a general. What do you think generals do? brush Jan 2020 #30

He was already at war with the US, dware Jan 2020 #35

You sound like Pompeo with repug talking points. brush Jan 2020 #39

You said this was an unprovoked attack, dware Jan 2020 #43

Not being at war with Iran and killing a high Iranian official is by... brush Jan 2020 #51

I never heard of this guy Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2020 #41

Google is your friend. dware Jan 2020 #47

that response is often what I get when I ask Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2020 #55

+1 Kurt V. Jan 2020 #114

Bush was responsible for the deaths of....... pangaia Jan 2020 #95

Of course he was, dware Jan 2020 #116

Every Dem statement I read last night started with the premise Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #15

That was by design - most knew that the RW's first talking point on this would be the old canard... Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #17

They have ceded the high ground to the GOP as soon as they opened their mouth Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #20

Correct - he was a GD OFFICIAL of the Iranian government, and a HIGH one at that Cosmocat Jan 2020 #37

I agree. defacto7 Jan 2020 #46

Who put the United States in charge of who iives and who dies malaise Jan 2020 #19

With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #80

I agree, Malaise! Heartstrings Jan 2020 #101

"No, 1 thought we were... " Salviati Jan 2020 #26

These people think Trump and Putin are good guys IronLionZion Jan 2020 #36

So, a Regime Change War in Iran Would Accomplish Many Things for Trump: panfluteman Jan 2020 #40

Alas, you may be right. defacto7 Jan 2020 #50

There will be no "Regime Change War" in Iran Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2020 #81

Doesn't matter if he was a bad guy. There are a lot of bad guys out there. You don't SweetieD Jan 2020 #57

Most didn't learn or won't learn from 2003. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #59

In an alternate universe, Saddam takes out Solemani or Solemani takes out Saddam... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2020 #62

Donald Trump is a racist pig ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #67

Supplying the world with armaments and regime change seems to be our thing. jalan48 Jan 2020 #69

Right or Wrong, Go Fill Up Your Gas Tank modrepub Jan 2020 #71

...and take spending money out of the bank, if no cash on hand Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #87

Soooo true. Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #79

Trump is a paid assasin. SCVDem Jan 2020 #82

Plenty of bravado and short memories here. Trillions of dollars NoMoreRepugs Jan 2020 #90

That's a one-liner that can be expected from pugnacious trumpers everywhere. calimary Jan 2020 #91

If citizens shouldn't question how their government takes or spends lives, ask yourself if ... mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #92

You'd better watch what you say" - Air Fleischer Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #94

The New Nazis learned well from their Masters Wednesdays Jan 2020 #100

there are still DUers who think we went into Iraq to go after a dictator Skittles Jan 2020 #117