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140. So you know things MS Research and Bruce Schneier don't?

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:33 PM

Sep 2012

As of last year the best public attacks on standard AES were about three orders of magnitude less than brute force. (PDF from MS Research) Still on the order of billion-billions of years on Sequoia for 128, let alone 256. I know that GPUs are insanely fast at embarrassingly parallel jobs like key searches but I haven't heard anything about a 16+ petaflop GPU network anywhere. Not saying a secret machine might not exist, but even so it wouldn't be practically any more useful than the NNSA/ASCP systems - even if it were quite literally a million times faster.

As for these super-duper "intelligent algorithms" you claim knowledge of, you should really give the NSA a call - sounds like something you could make a VERY good living dealing with them on.

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Anonymous group allegedly hacked Romney tax records via Franklin firm [View all] cali Sep 2012 OP

Release the tax forms Panasonic Sep 2012 #1

I wish it were true, but it's bullshit... cynatnite Sep 2012 #2

I don't see how the publication of a faux story on a satire site cali Sep 2012 #3

Copies were sent to the DNC...so what's the reason for the million dollar blackmail? cynatnite Sep 2012 #11

Where does it say they were sent to the DNC? drm604 Sep 2012 #13

Thanks for the correction... cynatnite Sep 2012 #15

You think that modern encryption is something that can be easily defeated? EOTE Sep 2012 #24

More like 100%. drm604 Sep 2012 #29

AES doesn't have quite a 100% track record. EOTE Sep 2012 #36

As far as I know drm604 Sep 2012 #37

Crackable is, I guess, a subjective term here. EOTE Sep 2012 #39

But social engineering Aerows Sep 2012 #50

Certainly drm604 Sep 2012 #72

Do you work in internet security? Aerows Sep 2012 #90

No, I don't drm604 Sep 2012 #92

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. jeff47 Sep 2012 #61

GPU calculations per seconds Aerows Sep 2012 #65

Some, for sure. EOTE Sep 2012 #70

Well, it's never been done. EOTE Sep 2012 #69

Are you operating under the illusion that the NSA announces such things publicly? jeff47 Sep 2012 #127

Of course they wouldn't announce it, but they're still limited to the rules of math. EOTE Sep 2012 #131

So you still ignore the parellelism jeff47 Sep 2012 #146

You REALLY need to think a bit harder about this. EOTE Sep 2012 #148

Is that word impossible? EOTE Sep 2012 #71

Intelligent algorithims Aerows Sep 2012 #73

It doesn't matter how intelligent an algorithm is if it requires billions or trillions of computer EOTE Sep 2012 #77

Okay Aerows Sep 2012 #89

Are we even on the same thread? EOTE Sep 2012 #91

The point is Aerows Sep 2012 #94

Once again, AES256 has never been cracked. EOTE Sep 2012 #98

I see after that response, you didn't have anything to say Aerows Sep 2012 #97

What on earth are you going on about? EOTE Sep 2012 #99

I have 22+ years in the industry Aerows Sep 2012 #101

But I'm afraid you've got some serious comprehension problems. EOTE Sep 2012 #103

I illustrated for you Aerows Sep 2012 #105

Sure, it's not impenetrable if you've got a few thousand years at your disposal. EOTE Sep 2012 #107

If you believe that there is nothing of substance here Aerows Sep 2012 #108

So once again, you offer nothing. EOTE Sep 2012 #110

I offer nothing Aerows Sep 2012 #112

Now you're offering kindness? EOTE Sep 2012 #114

You bet, sweetheart :) Aerows Sep 2012 #116

You're damned right. I tend to deal with facts. EOTE Sep 2012 #118

So you know things MS Research and Bruce Schneier don't? sir pball Sep 2012 #140

And by the way, who's being the braggart now? EOTE Sep 2012 #104

I illustrated my competence Aerows Sep 2012 #106

No, you've just repeated buzzwords over and over again. EOTE Sep 2012 #109

Buzzwords? Aerows Sep 2012 #111

They're buzzwords in that you're repeating them incessantly. EOTE Sep 2012 #113

I honestly believe Aerows Sep 2012 #115

Christ, this is very simple. LISTEN CLOSELY. EOTE Sep 2012 #117

It's already in the mainstream Aerows Sep 2012 #119

What a freaking joke. Now you've proven how little you know of this. EOTE Sep 2012 #120

You know Aerows Sep 2012 #121

You're welcome to provide any information to the contrary. EOTE Sep 2012 #122

I'll bet you have had enough Aerows Sep 2012 #123

Let me explain this as simply as possible. EOTE Sep 2012 #132

You should probably read this too snooper2 Sep 2012 #136

You should really read this- snooper2 Sep 2012 #134

Yes, I have no idea what you're talking about because you're talking out of your ass. EOTE Sep 2012 #145

FYI, number of years doesn't really mean as much as people think- snooper2 Sep 2012 #133

But surely 22 years of experience gives one the power to change the known laws of the universe. EOTE Sep 2012 #137

I could crack it in a couple hours snooper2 Sep 2012 #138

For sufficiently large values of "time".. sir pball Sep 2012 #139

I think there are plenty of people just as smart as Anonymous. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #32

You've entirely missed the point. EOTE Sep 2012 #35

Key words..."damned near". cynatnite Sep 2012 #38

Well, so far there haven't been any serious threats against AES 256. EOTE Sep 2012 #40

It depends on what you regard Aerows Sep 2012 #74

You portend to have such knowledge? EOTE Sep 2012 #80

And if you thought to threaten me because I understand AES256 Aerows Sep 2012 #84

What on earth are you talking about? EOTE Sep 2012 #88

Not that anyone Aerows Sep 2012 #76

Now you're just throwing random cryptography words together sir pball Sep 2012 #141

Where does it say this was Anonymous? They do not ask for ransom ever. Anyone sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #59

It wasn't as far as I can tell Aerows Sep 2012 #86

I'm going to post this before I go read the story. bemildred Sep 2012 #143

Unbreakable encryption is very easy these days. drm604 Sep 2012 #27

I don't have a degree in Computer Science Aerows Sep 2012 #100

If AES256 is breakable in the real world in reasonable amounts of time drm604 Sep 2012 #130

I have serious doubts about this drm604 Sep 2012 #6

That is a totally different story - not even the same thing FreeState Sep 2012 #7

Sounds like a scam wrapped in blackmail behind a pretend robbery. leveymg Sep 2012 #4

As I understand it drm604 Sep 2012 #9

Wow. I'm living in a bad SciFi novel. drm604 Sep 2012 #5

The possibility of blackmail is a big issue gollygee Sep 2012 #8

Extremely scary Aerows Sep 2012 #10

yes...that is why candidates show their taxes...so they can't be blackmailed DonRedwood Sep 2012 #102

this sounds like a sympathy ploy flamingdem Sep 2012 #12

Only $1 million? Hutzpa Sep 2012 #14

Check out the pastebin link I just posted Aerows Sep 2012 #17

Only 1 million? Spirochete Sep 2012 #144

This looks like the complete contents Aerows Sep 2012 #16

Nashville City Paper seems to have information that isn't in that pastebin document. drm604 Sep 2012 #25

Gonna have to show me some proof or else it's just the wind blowing..... nc4bo Sep 2012 #18

Would love to know if any police/security reports were made of a possible break-in? nc4bo Sep 2012 #19

I don't think there was any break in Hutzpa Sep 2012 #28

You'd think something would have been disturbed. nc4bo Sep 2012 #33

Ummm... probably not so much cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #20

One thing's for sure... stories like this will keep Mitt awake at night! reformist2 Sep 2012 #21

If the story were true, why demand only $1M? HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #22

Obviously done by an Austin Powers fan cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #23

Throw me a frickin bone here! DefenseLawyer Sep 2012 #49

I mean...100 BILLION DOLLARS!!! bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #128

Hahaha haha!!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #149

The blackmailers must not be Republicans. nt valerief Sep 2012 #26

I don't know much about BitCoins drm604 Sep 2012 #30

I don't know if there's more than a million dollars of bitcoin out there... nebenaube Sep 2012 #31

There is a hard limit of the number of Bitcoins in circulation Aerows Sep 2012 #44

That some people actually believe this nonsense could be true shows how gullible people are. former9thward Sep 2012 #34

If Wonkette says it's so... cynatnite Sep 2012 #41

Wonkette says it's probably fake. drm604 Sep 2012 #81

I don't believe or disbelieve it but I don't think cali Sep 2012 #43

Social engineering Aerows Sep 2012 #45

You never know Aerows Sep 2012 #48

If it were true, the hackers would have released a non-damaging part of the return. berni_mccoy Sep 2012 #42

According to what they say Aerows Sep 2012 #46

Anyone catch a whiff of Rove around this event? Skidmore Sep 2012 #47

What would be the gain? Aerows Sep 2012 #51

It wouldn't be the first time Rove set up a dirty trick to try to make it look as if the other side Skidmore Sep 2012 #55

Oh, that's a great list! Lone_Star_Dem Sep 2012 #58

First let me point out it's physical theft, not hacking. Lone_Star_Dem Sep 2012 #56

Of course it is theft Aerows Sep 2012 #60

Having just looked up the "Bitcoins" Lone_Star_Dem Sep 2012 #66

For what it's worth, Franklin is in Williamson County TN, Lars39 Sep 2012 #126

Proves that as long as Romney has secrets to hide (his tax forms), then he's blackmail-able. Lex Sep 2012 #52

So very true. nc4bo Sep 2012 #53

I think it's a Rove or Koch ploy to grab the front pages from the DEM convention woodsprite Sep 2012 #54

Except Aerows Sep 2012 #63

What original post? drm604 Sep 2012 #75

Here Aerows Sep 2012 #79

That's burglary, not hacking. silverweb Sep 2012 #57

Nice try KKKarl Rove. BeHereNow Sep 2012 #62

Rove was the second one Aerows Sep 2012 #64

Wow...this is really cool. Hope it's true. I have often thought how easy it might be for someone Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #67

You do realize, don't you, that both the seller and the newspaper would be committing a felony. former9thward Sep 2012 #83

I don't believe this for one second.... NotThisTime Sep 2012 #68

This is not outside the realm of possibility drm604 Sep 2012 #78

Bitcoin runs Aerows Sep 2012 #82

Who said that I think it's any different? drm604 Sep 2012 #85

I didn't think you did Aerows Sep 2012 #93

Nashville City Paper is now reporting that drives have been received. drm604 Sep 2012 #87

Interesting. Aerows Sep 2012 #95

ABC is now reporting it. drm604 Sep 2012 #96

They got thumb drives Aerows Sep 2012 #125

I wouldn't go anywhere near it. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #124

Someone may break the cipher and find a Walt Disney clip Coyotl Sep 2012 #129

I'd be applauding the hackers if they weren't trying to profit from this. Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #135

They should just release one page at a time until the Romney campaign agrees to release them. cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #142

I've written more credible fiction with more details and suspense. Sorry, ain't buying it. freshwest Sep 2012 #147