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47. I think the GOP has a three-pronged plan

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 01:50 PM

Jan 2020

When it comes to the 2020 election.

1 - Secretly hope Trump can't make it, get someone else.

2- If Trump makes in and loses, he resigns and Pence pardons him.

3- If Trump makes it and wins, he resigns due to health reasons and Pence pardons him just in case.

That's probably how they see it right now. There may be a contingency trying to convince his family to get him to sit down, but their criminal exposure probably worries the family too so who knows if they would get him to quit if they didn't have assurances they wouldn't face charges on other Trump Co. matters.

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Donald J. Trump is not at all well. [View all] MineralMan Jan 2020 OP

The more he attempts to cover his fuckups mikeysnot Jan 2020 #1

It can't be just nervousness ScratchCat Jan 2020 #2

Yeah. I don't think it's nervousness, either. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6

Congestive Heart Failure....I know the symptoms. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #14

Yes. That's what I think, too. MineralMan Jan 2020 #16

He just reads off a teleprompter... HipChick Jan 2020 #24

That's essential. When he speaks off the cuff, MineralMan Jan 2020 #32

80 billion dollars reward for his head could do it. pwb Jan 2020 #197

exactly MFM008 Jan 2020 #155

I heard some talk about his medications dixiegrrrrl Jan 2020 #169

Not surprising. He's been tweaking so much on his Adderall his heart's probably about to explode. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #202

I don't think so either PatSeg Jan 2020 #35

He's not hauling an oxygen tank around his golf courses Hortensis Jan 2020 #208

His recovery was rather surprising PatSeg Jan 2020 #210

Agree. In addition, I'm guessing those rallies he loves are Hortensis Jan 2020 #211

Yes PatSeg Jan 2020 #212

Oh, me too. It must be a well-deserved hell for Hortensis Jan 2020 #213

Oh, I cannot even begin PatSeg Jan 2020 #214

Congestive heart failure. Zoonart Jan 2020 #37

Yeah I've wondered about that captain queeg Jan 2020 #187

except at his nazi rallies. Kali Jan 2020 #50

That's a good point. I don't have an answer for that. MineralMan Jan 2020 #53

Drug cocktails and endorphins Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #145

Adrenalin rush that he gets from all that adoration... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #101

Probably the case paleotn Jan 2020 #127

he does slur his words at rallies NJCher Jan 2020 #179

But does an adrenalin pump-up last for four hours? 3Hotdogs Jan 2020 #128

Good question, and I don't know. 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #154

Steroids? mcar Jan 2020 #121

repeat loudly - Adderall addiction ********************* azureblue Jan 2020 #220

This is why I don't think he's physically sick... sacto95834 Jan 2020 #150

Could involve drugs fwvinson Jan 2020 #174

Exactly. You don't see these things (gasping for air, protruding tongue, sniffing, etc) Marie Marie Jan 2020 #201

How can that be true he has had at least two "clean bill of health reports" from WH doctors. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #74

I'm pretty sure the wh doctor talking about his amazing health is no different than... jcgoldie Jan 2020 #98

Could that be from being tranquilized? BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #95

I suspect they doped him up in hopes that it would curb hum from escalating the situation still_one Jan 2020 #3

No doubt he is on some medications. That's not surprising at all. MineralMan Jan 2020 #8

some medications bdamomma Jan 2020 #89

Well, many, then. OK. MineralMan Jan 2020 #92

Yes, I think that too ... he is being controlled bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #159

The walk into the room taxed his heart, he's so badly out of shape. Ilsa Jan 2020 #4

How does he manage to stand and moonscape Jan 2020 #26

He self medicates PatSeg Jan 2020 #39

Newsweek article on Trump and Adderall womanofthehills Jan 2020 #141

I just heard that Caster interview yesterday PatSeg Jan 2020 #151

I cant believe someone like trump would do that where anyone could see it. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #200

Pharmaceuticals. For that too. Captain Zero Jan 2020 #44

How can he play golf for hours? Frustratedlady Jan 2020 #57

There was a story from the golf course. Apparently the cart MineralMan Jan 2020 #69

Yeah, I remember that. cwydro Jan 2020 #71

Here's a YouTube on it. . .from a Twitter account. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2020 #96

That's true. I've only seen him in the rough. Frustratedlady Jan 2020 #109

(turd doesn't fall far from the asshole......) eom lastlib Jan 2020 #190

I don't think he is necessarily playing. defacto7 Jan 2020 #73

And he does not use the big flight of stairs into Airforce 1. Delmette2.0 Jan 2020 #78

Additionally, I remember a story about moonscape Jan 2020 #113

Apparently bdamomma Jan 2020 #157

Visceral fat Mopar151 Jan 2020 #175

"He is a man with serious health issues." llmart Jan 2020 #5

I do care, because the man is President. MineralMan Jan 2020 #11

Can't be soon enough (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2020 #58

Amen Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #144

I couldn't care less about him as a person but Boomerproud Jan 2020 #34

Yeah I don't. 47of74 Jan 2020 #64

The demarcation where the spray tan stops is distracting. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #7

I think the spray tan is to hide his pallor. MineralMan Jan 2020 #9

When he turns to his left at the conclusion of his delivery, you get a clear view of the line. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #12

I didn't notice that. Very sloppy makeup routine, if true. MineralMan Jan 2020 #13

Look at his right temple. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #18

You all have stronger stomachs than me jcgoldie Jan 2020 #91

Look at his right temple. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #18

I watched it up close PatSeg Jan 2020 #42

He is very obese, and has a poor diet. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #10

High in BAD fats, salt.... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #15

True. His diet is terrible. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #22

Yes PatSeg Jan 2020 #45

Only the good die Young... Nt Shipwack Jan 2020 #120

Sure seems like it 47of74 Jan 2020 #218

That's what Lewis Black says - the good die young, but pricks live forever. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #221

But HILLARY... maddiemom Jan 2020 #137

And what is remarkable is PatSeg Jan 2020 #138

Weight is not an indicator of health. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #17

True. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #21

Having plenty of lean Body Mass ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #30

Obesity is also not an indicator of poor health. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #46

By itself maybe not 47of74 Jan 2020 #219

No, it is not. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #28

He's definitely out of breath Johnny2X2X Jan 2020 #20

I have breathing problems PatSeg Jan 2020 #52

COPD? True Blue American Jan 2020 #66

Yes and asthma PatSeg Jan 2020 #99

I am sorry True Blue American Jan 2020 #112

Adderall causes your heart to race in high quantities, also shortness dewsgirl Jan 2020 #23

He already has hypertension and Adderall causes your blood pressure to rise on top of that. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #164

After this morning, it looks like perhaps it's taking its toll. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #167

He appeared to be drugged up more than usual today. Vinca Jan 2020 #25

He's also sunsetting Recursion Jan 2020 #27

I firmly believe he has some form of dementia and is having TIAs irisblue Jan 2020 #29

Now needing to make a pharmacy run for some anti-puke meds after viewing this. n/t sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #126

Why does he have the Kidalert figure painted on his right cheek? hatrack Jan 2020 #204

No TV, so can you post that image of him with that so I can reply. Thx irisblue Jan 2020 #205

We're watching his mental and physical breakdown duforsure Jan 2020 #31

Well, I think he has probably served his purpose at this point. MineralMan Jan 2020 #33

Yes, but for a majority in the House, and the fact our institutions seem to be PatrickforO Jan 2020 #43

I think the GOP has a three-pronged plan ScratchCat Jan 2020 #47

#3 is what they really want. And what I fear most. CrispyQ Jan 2020 #124

We'll impeach Pence faster than we impeached tRump Maeve Jan 2020 #161

And my speculation, furthering this scenario-- rusty fender Jan 2020 #142

Hallelujah cactusfractal Jan 2020 #173

Doesn't he see that himself? Cartoonist Jan 2020 #36

Perhaps the health of his body reflects the condition of his soul. n/t PatrickforO Jan 2020 #38

In contemplation of that, SCARY! n/t sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #130

Nice makeup job dalton99a Jan 2020 #40

If he's gonna die BillyBobBrilliant Jan 2020 #41

If only. TNNurse Jan 2020 #49

I hope he keeps eating that junk food! Southern Blueneck Jan 2020 #65

God Bless the general that convinced him looking weak was better than being a madman. Zolorp Jan 2020 #48

The general's name was Putin. gab13by13 Jan 2020 #79

So right Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #168

I agree that his health is failing. icymist Jan 2020 #51

Totally Agree RazBerryBeret Jan 2020 #177

Trump's a drug addict. octoberlib Jan 2020 #54

It's a very taxing job. Beryllinthranox Jan 2020 #55

Obama actually worked. OliverQ Jan 2020 #77

Raging on Twitter. It's Hard Work. (n/t) Pluvious Jan 2020 #132

He aged seemingly a bit more than usual for 8 years, but I wouldn't say 'horribly' ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #105

Getting gray hair is "aging horribly"? lunatica Jan 2020 #135

And Obama was in great shape. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #165

He's a druggy. mudstump Jan 2020 #56

Could it be maybe that HE CAN'T read? Just thought of that. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #59

Many who have True Blue American Jan 2020 #72

Not sure about "many". Agree no retention. There Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #123

Right on all ideas. True Blue American Jan 2020 #139

Contemplating exit strategies from the room. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #60

Hee Hee! +1 NT flying rabbit Jan 2020 #178

When he first appeared on my TV, I said "Why the hell is he so out of breath? He doesn't napi21 Jan 2020 #61

He is an evil person and I am getting concerned by the number of people I know who support Trump. I Pepsidog Jan 2020 #62

Where are you located mahina Jan 2020 #110

Trump did not sound well while making that speech. Something was very off. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #63

Yes, it was quite obvious. MineralMan Jan 2020 #67

Maybe because there is nothing wrong. Nt USALiberal Jan 2020 #117

He is transforming into 90-percent Jan 2020 #68

Good catch. MineralMan Jan 2020 #70

One cannot eat the diet he does, fail to exercise, and deal with the stresses of the presidency The Genealogist Jan 2020 #75

Weekend at GOP Traildogbob Jan 2020 #76

Your assessment is spot on. CrispyQ Jan 2020 #134

You do know them well. nt Duppers Jan 2020 #189

I am stunned. CloudWatcher Jan 2020 #80

It's all history in the making. I watch because of that. MineralMan Jan 2020 #83

his nose is running from habitual snorting of crushed up Adderall EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #81

He is a man with serious MENTAL health issues. Martin Eden Jan 2020 #82

Mental as well as physical deterioration was very obvious. lark Jan 2020 #84

No wonder he didn't speak last night. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #85

Satan will claim his own at the appropriate time The Blue Flower Jan 2020 #86

serious health issues bdamomma Jan 2020 #87

Don't hold your breath waiting for him to keel over. Trump is the human equivalent of the apocryphal BamaRefugee Jan 2020 #88

He just can't read well. another Jan 2020 #90

We've never gotten a satisfactory answer why he was rushed to the hospital, LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #93

Nor will we. MineralMan Jan 2020 #94

Trump has a serious... JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #97

For those who missed it, watch the Joint Chiefs faces when he mentions hypersonic weapons mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #100

Yes, I caught that, but I thought he was confused and referring to the Russian MineralMan Jan 2020 #104

Trump is giving away Military secrets with his constant boasting. True Blue American Jan 2020 #122

Donald Trump last Saturday or Sunday Botany Jan 2020 #102

Maybe that is why he is shoving ivanka out on stage in different places.. Tikki Jan 2020 #103

Numerous remarks on Twitter about his tongue being blue. nolabear Jan 2020 #106

Pepto Bismol tongue? C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #107

Hoping he keels over soon. MadMike47 Jan 2020 #108

I know people who act like this. They are usually taking handfuls of Percocet njhoneybadger Jan 2020 #111

Good. I hope he has the ultimate Big Mac attack. And the sooner the better. CrispyQ Jan 2020 #114

I love the weekly DU doctors diagnoses. Nt USALiberal Jan 2020 #115

Well, something is wrong. Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #149

Agree. He always sounds this way at his "presidential" addresses... SMC22307 Jan 2020 #172

I don't know awesomerwb1 Jan 2020 #116

Interesting.... Chakaconcarne Jan 2020 #118

I only heard a few seconds of it on the radio mcar Jan 2020 #119

I rarely listen to his voice TNNurse Jan 2020 #125

I'm almost ashamed of myself for hoping his health issues have consequences soon. bitterross Jan 2020 #129

man boobs evertonfc Jan 2020 #131

OT - All the sniffs from today. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2020 #133

I noticed that also Gothmog Jan 2020 #136

Yeah there is something that they are not telling us about him. Initech Jan 2020 #140

Pootie enid602 Jan 2020 #143

I have COPD and Congestive Heart Failure... The Figment Jan 2020 #146

Heavy laboured breathing... could he also be wearing an overtight girdle? Talitha Jan 2020 #147

Please don't tease me malaise Jan 2020 #148

Having an $80 million bounty on his head probably hasn't helped dlk Jan 2020 #152

I completely agree with you that something is Upthevibe Jan 2020 #153

Or just on drugs. People addicted to drugs often look unhealthy and have health problems from drugs lunasun Jan 2020 #156

Yes, they pump him up just to keep the charade going and inflict their sadistic agenda on America bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #158

Apparently this has to do with why Pence is giving that Iran policy speech upcoming. House of Roberts Jan 2020 #160

and apparantly, it's none of our business. spanone Jan 2020 #162

I will not be sad to see him go. warmfeet Jan 2020 #163

I think he is fucked up on something lillypaddle Jan 2020 #166

Maybe... BunnyMcGee Jan 2020 #170

not serious enough Skittles Jan 2020 #171

K&R BootinUp Jan 2020 #182

Add to it 5 minutes before going out Jared told him what Putin's orders were Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #176

Hopeful wishing IMHO -- sadly he's fine and live love laugh Jan 2020 #180

I don't think he's healthy by any means, but you're right about the speculation. Useless. cwydro Jan 2020 #198

He is crazier than a drunken sewer rat. Blue_true Jan 2020 #181

If that's the case, we'll find out during the debates. If he refuses to debate, than you are correct C Moon Jan 2020 #183

He is an adderralled bully...with pilot fish swimming around his bloated orange body pbmus Jan 2020 #184

#SniffyMcAdderall is trending on Twitter. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #185

Well we've been saying similar things for 3 years Fla Dem Jan 2020 #186

+1 onenote Jan 2020 #215

If what you say is true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is, raccoon Jan 2020 #188

His make-up job has gotten worse, that's for sure DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #191

Let me know when he is MFM008 Jan 2020 #192

I think in tough times he goes back on psychotropic/neuroleptic medications then Tardive Dyskinesia Captain Zero Jan 2020 #193

Tongue Thrusting is a Tardive Dyskinesia Symptom MineralMan Jan 2020 #194

Playing Golf treefarmers Jan 2020 #195

It might, if he walked. But he drives the cart right up to the ball. MineralMan Jan 2020 #196

But if that was the case he wouldnt be able to do those long rallies. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #199

I think he departs the room for 2 things: talk to Putin and get knee deep in Big Macs. kairos12 Jan 2020 #203

A lot of speculation on his ''health'' of which I do not care. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #206

Maybe there is a God after all? mdbl Jan 2020 #207

When he is at his rallies, that's the best he can do. greymattermom Jan 2020 #209

we see Trump in still photos and television video onenote Jan 2020 #216

He was not in a position to obtain gratification Wash. state Desk Jet Jan 2020 #217