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25. Do you have any facts to back up this assertion?

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It's actually very difficult for the poorest Americans to enlist in the military [View all] Recursion Jan 2020 OP

That's surprising. OnDoutside Jan 2020 #1

The military has recognized it as a problem for about 20 years now Recursion Jan 2020 #3

I remember seeing a documentary about the underhand tactics done to get people to enlist, so that's OnDoutside Jan 2020 #21

Yeah, showing up for school as a kid and not being a criminal are required. braddy Jan 2020 #2

And being in halfway decent physical shape. cwydro Jan 2020 #24

Whole categories of young black and brown men get stopped by cops for behavior that no white... Hekate Jan 2020 #49

You are also talking about an era when government public health measures weren't scorned DBoon Jan 2020 #51

Not saying you're wrong, but maxsolomon Jan 2020 #4

Exactly. My questions for the op as well paleotn Jan 2020 #17

No kidding. Poverty does not equate to complete degradation. Hortensis Jan 2020 #56

I would agree. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #5

The two biggest blockers of enlistments are obesity and asthma Recursion Jan 2020 #6

obesity does not "strike" anybody, its a behavioral thing nt msongs Jan 2020 #22

Sort of, there are environmental and genetic aspects... Mosby Jan 2020 #46

And an economic component hibbing Jan 2020 #60

It's a poverty thing as well. hunter Jan 2020 #52

Obesity is strongly correlated with living in a "food desert" where junk food is cheap and available Hekate Jan 2020 #58

My son is in the Air Force and they are very strict about all dewsgirl Jan 2020 #26

Well, there is no way in hell rich kids are going to join. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #7

They seem to serve at a higher rate than anyone else Recursion Jan 2020 #8

As officers I suppose. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #9

The officer corps does impact that percentage, yes (nt) Recursion Jan 2020 #12

Rich families have their kids sent to the academies to become officers. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #47

Reagan and the Republicans knew what they were doing when they changed the rules TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #10

Bingo Recursion Jan 2020 #11

During the Republic, yes. Aristus Jan 2020 #19

One of the reasons why I worry about trump trying to establish his own Praetorian Guard. dhol82 Jan 2020 #28

I don't think it's very likely. Aristus Jan 2020 #29

One hopes. dhol82 Jan 2020 #36

The drastic down sizing of the military is the real driver hack89 Jan 2020 #44

Hahahahaha, yeah let there be war Dan Jan 2020 #13

That didn't really happen during Iraq though Recursion Jan 2020 #14

Iraq Dan Jan 2020 #20

Iraq was not Vietnam. Blue_true Jan 2020 #30

"Go to war or go to jail" wasn't a plan to get recruits, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #57

I was in the service during Vietnam Dan Jan 2020 #61

So you're saying poor people are more likely to have paleotn Jan 2020 #15

I mean, it's *free* in the entire US, that isn't the problem Recursion Jan 2020 #16

Without solid data paleotn Jan 2020 #18

If that is the case, it's because our govt criminalizes the things poor people do to survive ck4829 Jan 2020 #55

My military experience was confined to the early 70's. 11 Bravo Jan 2020 #23

Because a large number of soldiers were dying in the late sixties, early 70s. Blue_true Jan 2020 #32

Do you have any facts to back up this assertion? Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #25

Here is some info Kaleva Jan 2020 #27

None of those links back up the assertion that MOST poor people are Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #45

But i think we can both argree that it's harder for a poor person to join. Kaleva Jan 2020 #48

Who's Joining the Military: Myth vs Fact braddy Jan 2020 #31

"Fact: Military recruits mirror the US population and are solidly middle class." Kaleva Jan 2020 #34

The standing military force is poorer and more nonwhite than the population Recursion Jan 2020 #38

White people don't get paid more in the military. Kaleva Jan 2020 #41

Whereas white people do get paid more than nonwhites in the private sector Recursion Jan 2020 #43

+10,000 Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #33

Tom DeLay and Dan Quayle military service keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #37

I got in the military with a GED JonLP24 Jan 2020 #39

The Army place a limit on the percentage of recruits who have a GED Kaleva Jan 2020 #42

I did get a high ASVAB score JonLP24 Jan 2020 #50

You also have to have a high school diploma and meet other requirements. Kaleva Jan 2020 #53

I was just saying my GT score was high enough to become a Warrant Officer JonLP24 Jan 2020 #54

Some more stats hardluck Jan 2020 #40

The last year I taught school before going into business...I had an 18 year old freshman Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #59