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54. The Impeachment of trump, increases trump's pressure on McC.

Fri Jan 10, 2020, 04:52 PM

Jan 2020

Time is the Speaker's ally, as trump's screwups, and, evidence against trump continues to pile up.

McConnell's votes are getting weaker, as some Senators, understandably, weigh using their collected power to allow witnesses, etc.

McC's current hardline is for trump's ego.

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Thoughts on why Pelosi is handing over Articles now? [View all] OliverQ Jan 2020 OP

Because that's her strategy. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #1

No matter the reason, I do trust that she's doing everything she can Siwsan Jan 2020 #3

No I think it's because of what the republicans want. rockfordfile Jan 2020 #69

McConnell has predetermined the outcome, no matter what Speaker Pelosi does Siwsan Jan 2020 #2

t-rump is impeached. Nothing that McTurtle does can change that. . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #7

Thanks. That's what I thought but my brain is starting to short circuit! Siwsan Jan 2020 #8

Tell that to Trumpers. Doremus Jan 2020 #37

Because she prodded turtle that he won't allow for a fair trial. DetlefK Jan 2020 #4

+10000 JustAnotherGen Jan 2020 #51

I trust Nancy implicitly. This will turn out perfect. Bonx Jan 2020 #5

Don't ask the critics. Ask Nancy Pelosi. MineralMan Jan 2020 #6

You nailed it once again. Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #10

Words like "caving" are loser talk, in my opinion. kentuck Jan 2020 #9

By waiting she smoked MM out and made him sweat in the spotlight. The more Raven Jan 2020 #11

I'm thinking Nancy has made her point about the senate trial. bluestarone Jan 2020 #12

I wouldn't put to much on the oath being a big issue. onenote Jan 2020 #18

Let me walk through this.... ewagner Jan 2020 #13

If they try to scam this trial and attempt to dismiss all charges... kentuck Jan 2020 #14

Yep....you've got it. ewagner Jan 2020 #16

Yes, and imo its important to keep this in mind: ScratchCat Jan 2020 #19

This sounds like rationalization. nt coti Jan 2020 #26

Agreed... regnaD kciN Jan 2020 #76

Because her caucus is getting antsy onenote Jan 2020 #15

She's going to squeeze the last drop of juice out of that lemon... kentuck Jan 2020 #17

There's nothing to be gained by handing them over. coti Jan 2020 #23

What is gained is an end to stories about how the caucus is beginning to divide over this onenote Jan 2020 #35

Well, we're definitely getting divided now. coti Jan 2020 #48

I think her timing may have somthing to do with the State of the Union address. panader0 Jan 2020 #50

It will be over. former9thward Jan 2020 #66

Agreed. The trial will not take a full week. Nt kelly1mm Jan 2020 #86

No gives a rats ass what McConnell is doing. Americans see him as a scumbag. rockfordfile Jan 2020 #70

Maybe she knows something really big that we don't know. pangaia Jan 2020 #20

A lot more information has come out, via FOIAs and reporting, DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #21

+1 Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #33

I'll give her benefit of doubt Zeus69 Jan 2020 #22

Yeah, she shouldn't be doing this. Just like she shouldn't have invited Trump coti Jan 2020 #24

I am afraid so TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #28

So you have all the information she has Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #32

People can disagree on sending the articles. But inviting Trump to the SOTU was a no-brainer. onenote Jan 2020 #42

That would make more sense if it hadn't worked the first time, when Trump shut down the government. coti Jan 2020 #46

Pelosi stated a valid reason for not inviting Trump while the government was shut down onenote Jan 2020 #52

Not allowing a traitorous, impeached President to speak in the House chamber coti Jan 2020 #56

Not inviting Trump wasn't a real option onenote Jan 2020 #57

As an average DUer, I'm astute enough to have figured out that "precedent" doesn't matter coti Jan 2020 #61

you should send a note to the Speaker telling her how much more astute you are than she is. onenote Jan 2020 #62

That is one drawn-out, exhausted appeal to authority you've got there. coti Jan 2020 #63

The same question: Have you ever made a mistake? onenote Jan 2020 #64

How about we just argue the merits of the issue? coti Jan 2020 #65

I worry about the political/media optics of treating Trump differently than Clinton onenote Jan 2020 #67

Differences like...having a trial? Shouldn't you be on my side then, to make sure that happens? coti Jan 2020 #68

On your side with respect to the SOTU? Not a bit. onenote Jan 2020 #71

I have to ask...what is your field of expertise.... AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #79

My friend AG, you've clearly demonstrated you don't know the first thing about the law coti Jan 2020 #80

You failed to answer the question...what in your CV allows you.. AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #82

How about none of your goddamned business? coti Jan 2020 #84

See.. there you go again....not knowing legal or Constitutional. AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #83

You got me. He has admitted to many felonies, but he hasn't yet been convicted. coti Jan 2020 #85

I said...not defending.."multi-time asshole/scumbag/moron...." absolutely" AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #88

I would not say she cannot make a mistake treestar Jan 2020 #75

He's still innocent until proven guilty treestar Jan 2020 #74

I don't know that our hero worship or our criticism treestar Jan 2020 #73

Wouldn't you mess with Moscow Mitch if you could? pwb Jan 2020 #25

She didn't say she is handing them over now. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #27

She said Nadler should be prepared to bring a resolution to the floor next week. onenote Jan 2020 #39

"should be prepared" to hand over next week does not equal "We will hand over articles next week" Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #45

When the Speaker of the House asks the Judiciary Chairman onenote Jan 2020 #59

I am willing to accept that she knows what she is doing. Caliman73 Jan 2020 #29

IMO, this is the "sweet spot" Mike 03 Jan 2020 #30

She is getting pressure from some Democrats in the Senate. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #31

It's McConnell who is caught, between a hard place and total insantiy empedocles Jan 2020 #34

Not really. McConnell has the votes to make sure that this goes nowhere. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #38

McConnell is running scared from the truth, and, for some reason, we're running from highlighting coti Jan 2020 #47

You really think he cares one iota about the truth? totodeinhere Jan 2020 #58

No, but we do. And we should act like it. nt coti Jan 2020 #60

The Impeachment of trump, increases trump's pressure on McC. empedocles Jan 2020 #54

Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #36

A couple of hours ago. jalan48 Jan 2020 #40

This is reminding me of Mueller. Lots of optimism followed by a loud thud. jalan48 Jan 2020 #41

Yes... but that isn't her fault FBaggins Jan 2020 #77

I don't understand why we didn't wait for the Courts to rule on subpoenas for Bolton and others. jalan48 Jan 2020 #81

Nope, perfect timing just heard that a group of pukes wants those witnesses. Withholding UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #43

My explanation: The State of the Union Speech! Louis1895 Jan 2020 #44

The trial will be over by then. Count on it. kelly1mm Jan 2020 #87

I believe she now knows there's enough republicans that will demand witnesses!!! rainy Jan 2020 #49

words like caving are right wing talking points..... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #53

Not complicated....Speaker Pelosi thought public opinion would go big our way.... AncientGeezer Jan 2020 #55

She had no leverage Jose Garcia Jan 2020 #72

She had rhetorical leverage FBaggins Jan 2020 #78

Because Congress's Recess Is Over Generic Brad Jan 2020 #89