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18. He is one of my 50/50 people.

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:56 PM

Sep 2012

You have to consider all he did.
His Great Society program tried to help, and he pushed civil rights acts through. His Vietnam policy was disastrous.

There have been good and bad ramifications from his actions. It makes his legacy hard to reconcile. People want things in black and white. If anyone was multitudes of shades of gray, it was LBJ.

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Lyndon Baines Johnson - Good President or Bad President [View all] Taverner Sep 2012 OP

Sigh BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #1

longterm beneifts are still with us and he never sucked up to republicans... msongs Sep 2012 #2

All set to say No Politicalboi Sep 2012 #3

I think I am the only person on DU who believes the Warren Report Taverner Sep 2012 #4

I Agree With You Re Oswald. Paladin Sep 2012 #11

Read James Summers' "JFK and the Unspeakable" hifiguy Sep 2012 #13

I've read all this in other sources Taverner Sep 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #22

Oh it was incomplete Taverner Sep 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #31

Yep, that's the ticket. A mentally-ill sharp-shooter who could race down stairs and not breathe WinkyDink Sep 2012 #43

You're not the only one. ballabosh Sep 2012 #55

He was too smart to have had Kennedy killed in Texas Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #9

Really? Where else would LBJ have held sway? MACBIRD. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #44

I've lived in Texas most of my life... MicaelS Sep 2012 #59

The good things he did endure.. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #5

Ask the widow or orphan of anyone who died in Vietnam about your second sentence... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #12

I know a woman in her 40's who is still mad she never got to meet her father Taverner Sep 2012 #21

I served. I agree with the sentence I wrote.... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #36

under clinton the following should be mentioned dsc Sep 2012 #52

Yes, but Gays still needed to serve in Secret. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #63

not in the rest of government they didn't dsc Sep 2012 #65

Nixon was President from 1969 to 1974. As in: It wasn't all LBJ. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #45

He'd have been great except for Vietnam... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #6

Not really that complicated. If it wasn't for the Vietnam War he would have been one of the best LynneSin Sep 2012 #7

Ah but that issue WAS a doozy.... Taverner Sep 2012 #15

About 416,500 U.S. Servicemen died in WWII between 1941 and 1945. Was Roosevelt a bad President? n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #37

World War II was necesarry. The Vietnam War was not. Taverner Sep 2012 #38

You do know that Johnson did not start Vietnam. Out involvement began in 1956, with 401 deaths. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #60

You've heard of Pearl Harbor? WinkyDink Sep 2012 #46

Yes, had relatives in the Pacific, European, and North African theaters. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #61

Plus, if it hadn't been for Vietnam... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #17

"Hey, Hey, LBJ how many kids did you kill today?" Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #8

Let me invoke Michelle Obama and Robert Caro. hifiguy Sep 2012 #10

Let me throw in an article from the Atlantic in 73 Taverner Sep 2012 #14

Thanks for that great link. hifiguy Sep 2012 #24

Put me down for a *sigh*. Brigid Sep 2012 #16

He is one of my 50/50 people. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2012 #18

LBJ was a very friendly President. I did not know him personally, but he still saw fit to send me retread Sep 2012 #19

Viet Nam was terrible for him standingtall Sep 2012 #25

I blame France Taverner Sep 2012 #27

That much is true standingtall Sep 2012 #29

He sent me to college. morningglory Sep 2012 #26

Hell, I didn't know he turned into a hippie in his last days madokie Sep 2012 #28

Love this part Taverner Sep 2012 #39

LBJ, 1972 nyquil_man Sep 2012 #57

Not a question with a binary answer. MineralMan Sep 2012 #30

Overall Good, i think many others could easily have done the Vietnam Mess JI7 Sep 2012 #32

Wasn't JFK far more to blame for Vietnam jsmirman Sep 2012 #33

Yes he was Taverner Sep 2012 #40

No he wasn't. former9thward Sep 2012 #50

Correct... (JFK in his own words) MinM Sep 2012 #58

I gotta tell you, my understanding is he sent in a lot of Americans jsmirman Sep 2012 #64

Vietnam: JFK's decision against escalation MinM Sep 2012 #67

The most progressive of my lifetime (so far) Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #34

Good on domestic policy, bad on foreign policy LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #35

LBJ cycle rider Sep 2012 #41

I think about punching reporters in the stomach all the time Nevernose Sep 2012 #42

LBJ reply. cycle rider Sep 2012 #47

I really don't like him...he was corrupt...but he did create ONE good thing...MEDICARE. roamer65 Sep 2012 #48

He also gave us the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicaid and a bunch of education bills StevieM Sep 2012 #62

He was an pretty awful person. a pretty good president, and he gets better in retrospect. n/t RichardRay Sep 2012 #49

Boil it down Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #51

He was both etherealtruth Sep 2012 #53

I saw a documentary on LBJ once Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #54

That damn war. Last progressive president. Great. Terrible. Complicated. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #56

hippie? I missed that one! flamingdem Sep 2012 #66

I want to make a point about the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led to Viet Nam War 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #68

oh that is just nonsense Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #69

It's easy for someone who didn't live through that era, didn't have to live with the raccoon Sep 2012 #70

Oh, and it's easy to dread every day Are_grits_groceries Sep 2012 #71