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21. I know it's fashionable to grouse

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:30 PM

Jan 2020

about corporate media ad nauseum these days. However, because I am housebound part of the time, I have the TV on when I am awake to have a voice in the house. It is set to MSNBC much of the time. Regardless of my beef with a few of their people, they have many good liberal and progressive contributors and a range of programs to choose from. I have no doubt that the channel is liberal. I have seen reports daily on those topics in varying combinations and depending on what else is in the news, even on their conservative programs.

I don't spend my time looking for podcasts. I read articles to supplement what is reported or scan social media for current topics and articles of interest to explore further. My friends and I exchange articles and discuss them.

Liberal media is limited to a few sources. One reason is that people on the left will not be consistent in using or investing in it. If one of the billionaires set up such a channel, the left as a whole would nitpick it to death as it did Air America.

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If the US did have an actual liberal media.... [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP

There'd be no "but both sides" to everything in politics ck4829 Jan 2020 #1

An excellent reminder. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #2

Kick dalton99a Jan 2020 #3

Great list! Cable should take this on. Instead of chasing the story of the day, rainin Jan 2020 #4

Part of the problem is the sheer volume of Trump's lies. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8

K&R. This should be an OP in every possible KPN Jan 2020 #5

+1. JudyM Jan 2020 #32

The media is only as liberal s the conservative corporations that own it. bumper sticker CrispyQ Jan 2020 #6

I do not think it is not believing in marketing as much guillaumeb Jan 2020 #9

Sounds like the very disappointing MSNBC. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #19

it's not that we don't believe in marketing, it's that they own the microphone unblock Jan 2020 #56

I have no expectations of... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #7

Very well said. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #10

Thanks! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #13

Many types of debt are at record levels. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #14

Exactly Newest Reality Jan 2020 #16

And when it does, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #17

A liberal media would have reported about the PNAC push to invade Iraq in 1997+... CaptainTruth Jan 2020 #11

Agreed, and that media would not allow these same people guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12

Yep, well said. pwb Jan 2020 #15

Yes TheFarseer Jan 2020 #18

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20

I know it's fashionable to grouse Skidmore Jan 2020 #21

Another good source is Free Speech TV yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #42

the US haven't had a liberal media musette_sf Jan 2020 #22

In the SF Chronicle today it said that last year was the deadliest year for US soldiers kimbutgar Jan 2020 #23

Last year was the 4th Lowest since we began in 2001. former9thward Jan 2020 #34

Trump would be a private con-artist rather than a presidential con-artist. rickyhall Jan 2020 #24

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #36

Another word would be "cultivated." dchill Jan 2020 #45

And deliberately used. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #49

this thread could have a virtual limitless number of replies/examples mnmoderatedem Jan 2020 #25

Indeed. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #37

The "liberal media" lie was started by Spiro Agnew when the media began reporting his crimes dlk Jan 2020 #26

For some time I've seen repeated excuses as to why a left media appalachiablue Jan 2020 #27

Here's the problem: All Media Are Expensive. MineralMan Jan 2020 #29

Yes of course it costs a lot of money. But the left manages to appalachiablue Jan 2020 #30

And that is why there are no liberal media. MineralMan Jan 2020 #31

And one reason is that the right controls most of the money. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #38

I would settle for an unbiased media. MineralMan Jan 2020 #28

As would I. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #39

No, that wasn't it. The profit motive is the reason. MineralMan Jan 2020 #46

Profit is the reason, but the Fairness Doctrine guillaumeb Jan 2020 #50

I remember those days very well. I supported the Fairness Doctrine, MineralMan Jan 2020 #52

Also needed is the motivation and desire to create such a media outlet. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #54

There are wealthy people on both sides of the political fence. MineralMan Jan 2020 #55

Righteous. If only our billionaires would set up a progressive media as a means to save the planet. JudyM Jan 2020 #33

Rather than engage in vanity candidacies? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #40

Start with buying up those radio stations which broadcast yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #44

Which is why we need our own liberal channel. ooky Jan 2020 #35

And people willing to invest in one. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #41

If every one of us sent a very small monthly amount to FSTV yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #43

We will not have true Democracy until we end the propaganda, campaign donations, and the Dustlawyer Jan 2020 #47

3 excellent points. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #51

"So those with no money have no speech." I coin the term "Capitalist Democracy!" Dustlawyer Jan 2020 #58

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #60

This was well worth bookmarking. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #48

Thank you for that. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #53

At one time the media probably did tend to be on the liberal end. It was mostly working class kids brewens Jan 2020 #57

Many people now do not understand the difference between opinion and fact. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #61

The Corporate Owned Liberal Media lame54 Jan 2020 #59

When 6 large corporations literally own 90% of the media outlets, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #62