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Dustlawyer

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47. We will not have true Democracy until we end the propaganda, campaign donations, and the

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

Jan 2020

revolving door!

The media companies will not do or say anything negative about their big advertisers. I saw first hand during the BP oil spill where the producers from all of the networks and most of the cable news companies that my boss would frequently appear on that they could not have him on anymore to discuss the litigation and how deep the impact of the spill was affecting the residents of the Gulf Coast. They said they would lose the oil companies advertising if they did.

In the McDonald's coffee case the media reported the accident as a frivolous lawsuit and runaway jury when in fact the woman almost died and McDonalds knew their hotter coffee was causing severe burns. McDonalds is a huge advertiser and welded their clout!

When we require our candidates to raise money in donations to make a debate stage (legal bribes) we have a built in advantage for those with the money to influence our politicians. When we do not prosecute our war criminals we encourage the powerful to do even worse the next time. Love Obama, but he should not have, "...look forward not back."

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If the US did have an actual liberal media.... [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2020 OP

There'd be no "but both sides" to everything in politics ck4829 Jan 2020 #1

An excellent reminder. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #2

Kick dalton99a Jan 2020 #3

Great list! Cable should take this on. Instead of chasing the story of the day, rainin Jan 2020 #4

Part of the problem is the sheer volume of Trump's lies. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #8

K&R. This should be an OP in every possible KPN Jan 2020 #5

+1. JudyM Jan 2020 #32

The media is only as liberal s the conservative corporations that own it. bumper sticker CrispyQ Jan 2020 #6

I do not think it is not believing in marketing as much guillaumeb Jan 2020 #9

Sounds like the very disappointing MSNBC. CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #19

it's not that we don't believe in marketing, it's that they own the microphone unblock Jan 2020 #56

I have no expectations of... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #7

Very well said. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #10

Thanks! Newest Reality Jan 2020 #13

Many types of debt are at record levels. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #14

Exactly Newest Reality Jan 2020 #16

And when it does, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #17

A liberal media would have reported about the PNAC push to invade Iraq in 1997+... CaptainTruth Jan 2020 #11

Agreed, and that media would not allow these same people guillaumeb Jan 2020 #12

Yep, well said. pwb Jan 2020 #15

Yes TheFarseer Jan 2020 #18

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #20

I know it's fashionable to grouse Skidmore Jan 2020 #21

Another good source is Free Speech TV yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #42

the US haven't had a liberal media musette_sf Jan 2020 #22

In the SF Chronicle today it said that last year was the deadliest year for US soldiers kimbutgar Jan 2020 #23

Last year was the 4th Lowest since we began in 2001. former9thward Jan 2020 #34

Trump would be a private con-artist rather than a presidential con-artist. rickyhall Jan 2020 #24

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #36

Another word would be "cultivated." dchill Jan 2020 #45

And deliberately used. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #49

this thread could have a virtual limitless number of replies/examples mnmoderatedem Jan 2020 #25

Indeed. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #37

The "liberal media" lie was started by Spiro Agnew when the media began reporting his crimes dlk Jan 2020 #26

For some time I've seen repeated excuses as to why a left media appalachiablue Jan 2020 #27

Here's the problem: All Media Are Expensive. MineralMan Jan 2020 #29

Yes of course it costs a lot of money. But the left manages to appalachiablue Jan 2020 #30

And that is why there are no liberal media. MineralMan Jan 2020 #31

And one reason is that the right controls most of the money. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #38

I would settle for an unbiased media. MineralMan Jan 2020 #28

As would I. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #39

No, that wasn't it. The profit motive is the reason. MineralMan Jan 2020 #46

Profit is the reason, but the Fairness Doctrine guillaumeb Jan 2020 #50

I remember those days very well. I supported the Fairness Doctrine, MineralMan Jan 2020 #52

Also needed is the motivation and desire to create such a media outlet. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #54

There are wealthy people on both sides of the political fence. MineralMan Jan 2020 #55

Righteous. If only our billionaires would set up a progressive media as a means to save the planet. JudyM Jan 2020 #33

Rather than engage in vanity candidacies? guillaumeb Jan 2020 #40

Start with buying up those radio stations which broadcast yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #44

Which is why we need our own liberal channel. ooky Jan 2020 #35

And people willing to invest in one. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #41

If every one of us sent a very small monthly amount to FSTV yellowdogintexas Jan 2020 #43

We will not have true Democracy until we end the propaganda, campaign donations, and the Dustlawyer Jan 2020 #47

3 excellent points. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #51

"So those with no money have no speech." I coin the term "Capitalist Democracy!" Dustlawyer Jan 2020 #58

Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #60

This was well worth bookmarking. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #48

Thank you for that. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #53

At one time the media probably did tend to be on the liberal end. It was mostly working class kids brewens Jan 2020 #57

Many people now do not understand the difference between opinion and fact. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #61

The Corporate Owned Liberal Media lame54 Jan 2020 #59

When 6 large corporations literally own 90% of the media outlets, guillaumeb Jan 2020 #62