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Laura PourMeADrink

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66. Not sure where the hidden vote comes from. I would

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:43 AM

Jan 2020

Need to try and research more about why experts think he outperforms polls.

Anecdotally, when I worked polls in 2016, it gave me a very bad feeling. Trump supporters were pulling up in their trucks with trump signs in them all day long. The way they acted was like they had never voted before. Living in a red state, you could see the cultist enthusiasm. It was cool to vote.

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Damage control? He's 1 point above approval needed [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 OP

He isn't at 45% though. He is at 42% See link Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #1

Crazily close. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #4

Not really jcgoldie Jan 2020 #13

Hill 47% Harris 47% Gallup 45% 12/15. MSNBC daily 45% Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #17

Aggregates from 538 are linked in this thread jcgoldie Jan 2020 #21

Not panic, realism. He fucking assassinated someone on a whim, Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #24

Let's keep hammering-- he hired a thug to stalk an ambassador dawg day Jan 2020 #78

But you did hear him.....if he shoots someone on 5th ave??? He'll get off. a kennedy Jan 2020 #2

Only truth he's ever spoken Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #18

He is also way below on most of the swing states. 6 to 15% Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #3

+1. Way too close for comfort. Then add in tRussian Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #7

Too close for comfort isn't "fucked" Sugarcoated Jan 2020 #76

Soon Republicans will no longer be a national party Cicada Jan 2020 #5

+1000 UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #9

In the meantime NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #20

They will not be able to survive the Tsunami coming at them Cicada Jan 2020 #34

I hope you're right NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #35

And Trump isn't getting any new voters-- dawg day Jan 2020 #79

Be optimistic please Cicada Jan 2020 #86

I hope for the best! dawg day Jan 2020 #88

Im glad we're waking up to the fact that 2020 will be a razor close race tman Jan 2020 #6

No, he will "win"...and what will we do about that? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #8

Since you've got your crystal ball up and running Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #10

Don't certify his cheated win uponit7771 Jan 2020 #12

I can't believe a long-term DUer is suggesting giving up on taking the presidency muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #28

No need to disparage me thank you very much. And Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #29

You *are* suggesting giving up muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #30

You can't demand anything of me. And your antagonism Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #32

Then self-delete this abortion of a thread muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #33

Ok what's your idea? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #37

Self delete your cruel and horrible response to a fellow Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #43

Don't give up on the White House. We've seen tonight there was a conspiracy muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #64

Well you were doing fine MV and then you had to throw in "get a grip" Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #68

I think you've finally admitted your OP was defeatism. You're certainly disowning it now muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #73

???? Never said do less work. And nothing worse Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #75

"Can we instead of concentrating on WH, concentrate on Senate" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #77

Yeah Cosmocat Jan 2020 #60

Yet this time our side will vote with matching enthusiasm. Then Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #70

National polls mean little, what are the swing state polls? uponit7771 Jan 2020 #11

Agree. But nationals can sense overall mood. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #38

FUD nt Codeine Jan 2020 #14

WE'RE DOOOOOMED!!! brooklynite Jan 2020 #15

Also, 3rd party candidates have to get 300 percent more votes AGAIN in swing states, not happening uponit7771 Jan 2020 #16

77,744 votes. That's what we have to overcome... SKKY Jan 2020 #19

Really going for it, huh? greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #22

If at first you don't succeed, Codeine Jan 2020 #26

What does that mean? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #44

You didn't like the pushback Codeine Jan 2020 #45

Well, hope you open up your mind and truly look Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #46

Oh good grief. nt Codeine Jan 2020 #47

Will be so glad and happy to pass on that helpful response!! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #48

It has the advantage of being FUD-free, Codeine Jan 2020 #49

We both want the same thing - trump OUT. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #52

Pick the candidate that matches up best head to head Amishman Jan 2020 #23

Agree 100%. And hire someone to lead Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #31

There's lies, d--- lies and statistics DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #25

Not listening to media at all. Looking at polls and trends Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #27

Years ago, I read that party ID is the single best predictor DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #65

Not sure where the hidden vote comes from. I would Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #66

you sound like troll rockfordfile Jan 2020 #36

What? Have Democrat in my DNA. What an insult. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #41

Omg, the sky is falling! Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #39

Canned Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #42

Not fooled for one second. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #40

... greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #50

they'll cheat to win (again,) elleng Jan 2020 #51

Yes. But what? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #53

I seem to recall that this is only January Vogon_Glory Jan 2020 #54

"Only January". Yes, in a typical world/election. Yet Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #56

I admit I'm concerned about Russian tampering, BUT Vogon_Glory Jan 2020 #58

Hope so !! Truly do Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #59

Go pour a drink tenderfoot Jan 2020 #55

Brilliant! Thanks for adding solutions!!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #57

You weren't looking for solutions... tenderfoot Jan 2020 #63

Try me. What do you think we could do other than Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #67

I think it is very possible he will win again. Tipperary Jan 2020 #61

Well just watched the debate. Trump hardly mentioned. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #62

There's No Opponent Yet ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #69

Yup Rasmussen way out there. Imho never too Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #74

:) Chill? Impeachment was GUARANTEED to cause Repubs Hortensis Jan 2020 #71

So you think the recent ticks up in approval can be attributed Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #72

Toxically PARTISAN supporters uniting behind their leader Hortensis Jan 2020 #81

"Most aren't all that crazy, of course, but caught up in all this." Very true. Was just Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #85

Lol. For a Wobbler Plan, I guess I could start by trying Hortensis Jan 2020 #87

Do you have a blog? If not, you should!! You always Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #89

:) I've also known women who consult their husbands Hortensis Jan 2020 #94

Lets not MFM008 Jan 2020 #80

Has nobody challenged the premise of the OP? FBaggins Jan 2020 #82

I read it somewhere. Just something I renember Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #90

Good article about approval rating Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #93

No! He can and he will be beat. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #83

They were really thinking about killing an American ambassador! UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #84

It's amazing...and makes me think, why. Is it just that human Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #91

GOTV is what we can do. 92 million eligible American voters didn't even show up in 2016. NCLefty Jan 2020 #92