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HughBeaumont

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68. "European Welfare State" is truly laughable.

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:00 PM

Jan 2012

We have one of the weakest social safety nets in the industrialized world, and Obama strengthening them for the workers by 0.0001% probably equals "WELFARE STATE!!!" in Mitt's puny little mind.

"Quarter of a Billion" Mittens, BTW, is doing quite well regardless of who's running things.

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Why would any progressive promote Ron Paul's worldview? [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

Note to Progressives: He wants to DISMANTLE the Govt and vaporize social safety nets. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #1

This also includes programs that give financial grants (i,e,, PELL) to college Kahuna Jan 2012 #40

He WANTS to do it. CAN he do it? i was a cathar Jan 2012 #83

First you have to believe Ron Paul's BS that he WOULDN'T start wars. He will do what corporations FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #89

A progressive wouldn't. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #2

True: only people who mistakenly believe themselves to be progressive would frazzled Jan 2012 #3

Exactly nevergiveup Jan 2012 #5

Exactly. ronnie624 Jan 2012 #31

Precisely. A progressive wouldn't support Paul's world view. Laelth Jan 2012 #67

I totally agree, Laelth the ironic tragedy is that in spite of Paul's racism, he's the only major Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #77

Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Jan 2012 #78

I find some of Ron Paul's views very appealing... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #4

Paul ProSense Jan 2012 #6

I like that chart. (no text) Quantess Jan 2012 #39

+100. NO fucks given for Economic Darwinists, and Ron Paul very much is one. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #53

All of this Ron Paul garbage about sticking it to 'corporate welfare' is a bad joke. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #9

Exactly. DevonRex Jan 2012 #11

Thank you! Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #27

The scary thing is, I could see Ron Paul reading what you said boxman15 Jan 2012 #66

Oh Snap! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #70

Well said! nt MH1 Jan 2012 #72

Welcome to DU, Saving Hawaii! 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #84

please spare me from going to Ron Pauls web page and just tell me BootinUp Jan 2012 #25

'Pour water on the corporate fire'? LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #34

Yep, yep and yep! nt Kahuna Jan 2012 #42

"European Welfare State" is truly laughable. HughBeaumont Jan 2012 #68

I love this thread, and the great counter arguments to the left's Ron Paul fetish. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #71

You got it backwards grantcart Jan 2012 #81

So, you believe he'll end war and corporatocracy and basically do what he says he'll do? Doremus Jan 2012 #90

No progressive would. No progressive would believe DevonRex Jan 2012 #7

I don't think any do. Rex Jan 2012 #8

Take a look at #s 4 and 10. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #12

Lol, Bob Johnson. Now that is someone who would convince me of anything. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #10

Who might Bob be? Rex Jan 2012 #13

So you think Ron Paul is great? SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #14

Exposed! ProSense Jan 2012 #15

Actually I think she is laughing about the cred Rex Jan 2012 #22

What is the cred of Bob? SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #24

What's not to get? quinnox Jan 2012 #16

Hey ProSense Jan 2012 #17

But without simplistic thinking there would be no argument. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #18

Yup ProSense Jan 2012 #19

true quinnox Jan 2012 #21

At scam seminars like EST (or scientology or whatever) cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #23

If Newt Gingrich comes out tomorrow and says that climate change is happening and that we need to do Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #20

But ProSense Jan 2012 #26

And again, thank you! Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #28

Ron Paul was asked about pollution, climate change, etc, his answer was that you sue people... joshcryer Jan 2012 #30

As I wrote on GG's blog: joshcryer Jan 2012 #29

That's too much to ask. This forum is not for "discussion" kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #60

We could co-opt ALL of em in 5 minutes w/ some long overdue SANITY on the drug war & the military. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #32

Libertarianism is a wierd ideology to place on the political scale. It takes its economic craigmatic Jan 2012 #33

It suits their needs. Behind the Aegis Jan 2012 #35

Anti war is appealing.. however, his bone crusing economic austerity plans... lib2DaBone Jan 2012 #36

Nah we arent suffering from depression cstanleytech Jan 2012 #43

One could ask the same question of Obama ixion Jan 2012 #37

Has Obama dismantled or supported the dismantling of social security, medicare or any of the varies cstanleytech Jan 2012 #44

The Constitution and Bill of Rights take precedence, but ixion Jan 2012 #54

There is no "if", either he has or he has not pushed or supported dismantling the varies social cstanleytech Jan 2012 #65

What a great example of binary black/white thinking. ixion Jan 2012 #79

I'll think about it................maybe. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #86

In part, or en toto? LanternWaste Jan 2012 #55

Well, not really. That is spin. ixion Jan 2012 #74

Because his military stance is appealing, MadHound Jan 2012 #38

Can you explain to me what the bill put forward by Mr. Paul... Spazito Jan 2012 #45

"not get involved" that there can be a problem. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #46

Sure ProSense Jan 2012 #47

Good read, although the irony of it is Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #41

ANOTHER Ron Paul thread from you? 99Forever Jan 2012 #48

Yes ProSense Jan 2012 #49

Paranoia.. 99Forever Jan 2012 #50

Well ProSense Jan 2012 #52

What's with that big chip.. 99Forever Jan 2012 #58

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #61

What utter nonsense. 99Forever Jan 2012 #62

Why the chip? n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #63

Thanks 99Forever Jan 2012 #64

I find it curious that many self-proclaimed Obama super-supporters... ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #91

Legalized dope Freddie Stubbs Jan 2012 #51

Let me answer this question because I have been thinking about it NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #56

I don't understand _ed_ Jan 2012 #57

Please ProSense Jan 2012 #59

Here: _ed_ Jan 2012 #94

You ProSense Jan 2012 #99

WTF? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #75

Thanks for your detailed and reasoned response _ed_ Jan 2012 #96

I think my response was more than equal to the inanity of yours. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #101

Good luck getting a sandwich at the "No Gays, Blacks, Or Jews Allowed Lunch Counter", then Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #80

Good luck breathing if you happen to be suspected of terrorism _ed_ Jan 2012 #93

Anyone who promotes Ron Paul is not a progressive...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #69

No True Scotsman _ed_ Jan 2012 #97

The correct answer is: They would not. Anyone that supports Ron Paul Zorra Jan 2012 #73

No True Scotsman _ed_ Jan 2012 #95

Could they possibly be "fake" progressives and/or stealth Republicans? . Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #76

Wake me up NSojac Jan 2012 #82

You ProSense Jan 2012 #87

You realize the subject line allows more than one word? Just a tip. Logical Jan 2012 #92

I ProSense Jan 2012 #100

If a progressive has a kid in the military maybe?> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #85

Here is what happened DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #88

I've always t thought of myself as a liberal mdmc Jan 2012 #98