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lunatica

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142. I haven't changed my mind

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:21 AM

Jan 2020

Luckily I had an uncle who was a gynecologist who also volunteered his time to helping women who had botched abortions that were life threatening. He lobbied for abortions to become legal so women would get safe abortions. His argument was that women will get abortions whether they’re legal or not so they should be legal.

He talked to all the women in the family who were old enough, including his daughters and all his nieces about getting birth control and safe abortions. This was 55 years ago.

I remember how surprised I was that my good hearted, funny and joking favorite uncle, which he was to all of us, could be so serious about something.

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Have your views on abortion changed? [View all] Dream Girl Jan 2020 OP

I have always believed it's not anyone's biz but... TruckFump Jan 2020 #1

I am 60 and was brought up in black evangelical Dream Girl Jan 2020 #2

I had RW John Bircher parents. TruckFump Jan 2020 #7

So many religious organizations treat women like StarryNite Jan 2020 #92

I think of the Mormon Church on the issue of over breeding. TruckFump Jan 2020 #95

Would you hold it against me that I believed Dream Girl Jan 2020 #8

Your view as to what happens to your body is your biz, not mine. TruckFump Jan 2020 #11

My response to your remark leftieNanner Jan 2020 #12

So it's not my business if my wife aborts our child? Doodley Jan 2020 #26

So why would you react like this? Demanding that it's "your business." TruckFump Jan 2020 #29

He probably thinks his wife should have to get his permission. nt. Mariana Jan 2020 #81

Yeah... TruckFump Jan 2020 #85

If your wife decides it's your business, then it's your business. nt. Mariana Jan 2020 #30

It would be a crappy marriage if my wife thought it was none of my business. Doodley Jan 2020 #43

IMO, it's a crappy marriage if you as a male thought it was your biz. TruckFump Jan 2020 #47

You know, I would tell my husband Mariana Jan 2020 #56

That's the way it should be. TruckFump Jan 2020 #65

Some people have crappy marriages. Mariana Jan 2020 #50

+ 1,000 EOM TruckFump Jan 2020 #66

Are you going to take on the risks of childbirth instead of her, including death? Lars39 Jan 2020 #80

Only if she has veto power over your healthcare as well. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #89

i will be 70 next month. my views have NEVER changed WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE !!! Always. trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #45

Same here - it's always been the choice of a woman with advice from her medical provider csziggy Jan 2020 #51

No, I believe the pregnant person gets to decide what happens. n/t phylny Jan 2020 #3

Same Here! It was reinforced when I studied the Bible--not one thing supports the "pro-life" views. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #113

I first thought the issue over seriously when I was in high school, Aristus Jan 2020 #4

My views have not changed at all. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2020 #5

Yep. Me, too. Mrs. Overall Jan 2020 #20

Me, too, Peggy Ohiogal Jan 2020 #42

My views changed a long time rzemanfl Jan 2020 #6

Terminating a pregnancy is a personal matter. underthematrix Jan 2020 #9

My views have only changed in that I am even more Pro Choice now leftieNanner Jan 2020 #10

The man's choice was at the time of intercourse, IMO. TruckFump Jan 2020 #13

Precisely! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #15

So, Big Guy...you don't like condoms? TruckFump Jan 2020 #16

Oh, I vividly remember the day leftieNanner Jan 2020 #22

I hear ya...been there and done that! TruckFump Jan 2020 #24

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jan 2020 #34

Thank you! EOM TruckFump Jan 2020 #44

Exactly. Ohiogal Jan 2020 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Mariana Jan 2020 #99

I used to think that safe abortions should be available for all who want them. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #14

And so should leftieNanner Jan 2020 #18

A-fucking-men!!!!!! TruckFump Jan 2020 #21

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #31

This is not a reflection of reality, but a right wing talking point. marybourg Jan 2020 #37

Well, what about recreational abortions...kinda like a day at the spa! ret5hd Jan 2020 #48

Yeah, I love hospital stays. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #72

Exactly how many young women do you personally know who sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #58

I think this would be a rare young woman, so ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #70

Do you think that hypothetical woman should be forced to give birth? nt. Mariana Jan 2020 #75

I was raised in an independent, fundamentalist baptist church OriginalGeek Jan 2020 #17

Our body Faux pas Jan 2020 #19

Once upon a time I thought I should have an opinion on abortion gratuitous Jan 2020 #23

yes... handmade34 Jan 2020 #25

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #36

Another right wing, misogynistic post. marybourg Jan 2020 #41

And if she is a teenager in the grasp of some older man like Epstein, how sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #46

Right wing crap. Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #55

You have made it abundantly clear... tonedevil Jan 2020 #67

seriously? handmade34 Jan 2020 #68

I don't believe in late term abortion, unless it's to save the dewsgirl Jan 2020 #27

That's why we now have LEGAL abortions. marybourg Jan 2020 #60

Late term abortions are the most medically necessary. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #141

Thank you, of course then. Also if it won't survive, my dewsgirl Jan 2020 #143

After reading a story in Saturday Evening Post aka-chmeee Jan 2020 #28

The right to abort at any time? Really? Doodley Jan 2020 #39

Yes, really. Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #52

You should try reading post #64... tonedevil Jan 2020 #73

Yes. TruckFump Jan 2020 #74

No never. Between dr and woman. No one else. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #32

Nope. I've always had the stance of it being the woman's choice sakabatou Jan 2020 #33

66 year old female. SamKnause Jan 2020 #35

I've always believed it was totally a woman's decision and sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #38

Late term maybe other than that I'm more resolved it's the women's choice uponit7771 Jan 2020 #40

Do you think that any woman wants a "late term" abortion? csziggy Jan 2020 #105

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #111

Really? Do you have any source for that assertion? nt csziggy Jan 2020 #112

Only if the alternative is unacceptable Blaukraut Jan 2020 #118

This too uponit7771 Jan 2020 #127

Please cite some facts for that assertion ChubbyStar Jan 2020 #125

Care to prove... tonedevil Jan 2020 #133

Nope - it's not up to me to tell a women what to with her body or reproductive choices jpak Jan 2020 #53

Age 72 and consistently pro-woman and therefore pro-choice. RobertDevereaux Jan 2020 #54

I am pro-choice, and pro-life. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #57

My body, my choice. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #59

NO. Policy-wise I've always thought government should stay out of it hlthe2b Jan 2020 #61

No. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #62

I lived through the era of illegal abortions. dhol82 Jan 2020 #63

the fear we will return to this... handmade34 Jan 2020 #84

If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. Period. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #64

I'm also 71 and you speak for me! TruckFump Jan 2020 #83

+1000. This has been my view since I was old enough to have one. meadowlander Jan 2020 #115

I changed as I left the church marlakay Jan 2020 #69

Were you in the Senate at that time? melman Jan 2020 #71

And why would that be? Dream Girl Jan 2020 #126

Why would what be? melman Jan 2020 #130

Why does that matter? George II Jan 2020 #136

Why does what matter? melman Jan 2020 #139

No. I'm pro-choice from first to last. Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #76

I'm a guy, so my views shouldn't matter NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #77

As a man I still have never had to get one. Botany Jan 2020 #78

Nope, not really Mersky Jan 2020 #79

All abortion is immoral except MY abortion. Ilsa Jan 2020 #82

Yes. Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #86

I have had two abortions... sanatanadharma Jan 2020 #87

i was against it when I was young MFM008 Jan 2020 #88

I've had one. nocoincidences Jan 2020 #90

Raised Catholic and didn't know better until I was in high school. Now I support abortion on demand WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #91

The only part about abortion that is any of my business, then and now, is that it GemDigger Jan 2020 #93

No. I've always been firmly pro-choice... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #94

No. I have always believed that if you don't like abortions WhiteTara Jan 2020 #96

I've always been pro choice, but I'd say I'm even more so Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #97

It only happens in the fevered imaginations of anti-choicers Mariana Jan 2020 #138

I have always felt... abakan Jan 2020 #98

I am so happy to hear that you are in a reunion. StevieM Jan 2020 #120

I have always been strongly pro-choice ever since I became aware of the issue. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #100

My only position in the matter is to support women in their choice. whttevrr Jan 2020 #101

No. I never have been in the position to make a decision for another person brokephibroke Jan 2020 #102

I am personally not in favor of abortion, but I also have no right to tell other people Blue_true Jan 2020 #103

NO! bluestarone Jan 2020 #104

Yes Tree-Hugger Jan 2020 #106

Not a bit shanti Jan 2020 #107

My views have not changed... nancy1942 Jan 2020 #108

As a 6th or 7th grader on a babysitting gig, I came across... SMC22307 Jan 2020 #109

Nope. Mine have always been the same, from late teens to now. ancianita Jan 2020 #110

When I first became politically aware the right wing was pushing late term abortion bans JonLP24 Jan 2020 #114

Nope. Abortion - safe and legal. Solly Mack Jan 2020 #116

One of my earliest memories tishaLA Jan 2020 #117

My personal views on abortion, marginally. My support for choice has been constant n/t Blaukraut Jan 2020 #119

I have always been the same mvd Jan 2020 #121

Ever since I formed an opinion about abortion I have been pro-choice. Politicub Jan 2020 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon Jan 2020 #123

Yes. KentuckyWoman Jan 2020 #124

Always pro-choice Freddie Jan 2020 #128

Same here TheFarseer Jan 2020 #129

No, not at all ellie Jan 2020 #131

no Skittles Jan 2020 #132

No. Should be available to any woman who wants it. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #134

Nope. In my 60's and have always been pro choice. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #135

No, but I notice that many others have Polybius Jan 2020 #137

At first I was ambivalent. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #140

I haven't changed my mind lunatica Jan 2020 #142

No LArider Jan 2020 #144