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bighart

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83. I don't dislike apple, have several of the products they offer

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:10 PM

Jan 2012

Corporate value and consumer popularity do not equate to being good citizens, if they did Walmart would be near the top of the good citizen list as well.
Apple CHOOSES to produce off shore because doing so allows them to put the maximum dollars in the profit column on the balance sheet.
Apple, like all electronics manufacturers, use underpaid, and often underage, workers in China who are forced to work demoralizing hours in unsafe and inhumane conditions with little, if any, options or alternatives. This is well documented so if you have documented evidence to the contrary I would love to take a look at it.
Steve Jobs was one of the least philanthropic of the uber wealthy, but he did dream up and produce some really cool toys.

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I Chillicothe, people will have a very hard time finding new jobs liberal N proud Jan 2012 #1

Indeed Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #2

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I doubt that calling soon-to-be-unemployed factory workers... countryjake Jan 2012 #7

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Voting for those whose policies would destroy one's livelihood is being a dumb a$$. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #77

Stockholm Syndrome... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #91

Doesn't matter MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #8

Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #9

Profit MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #11

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Let me check on that Nafta thing...... Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #68

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Outsourcing is America's way of sacrificing our livelihood to help the world's poor! <sarcasm> Zalatix Jan 2012 #93

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How do you know how they voted? pintobean Jan 2012 #12

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I can't. And you can't prove anything. pintobean Jan 2012 #18

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Meaning that Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #39

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He can't izquierdista Jan 2012 #24

I live in Missouri pintobean Jan 2012 #27

Livingstone County, Missouri General Election Results 2008: hatrack Jan 2012 #17

Where are the stats for these workers? pintobean Jan 2012 #21

Don't know - Secretary of State's office doesn't provide that level of detail hatrack Jan 2012 #22

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What? pintobean Jan 2012 #29

No need to ask MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #36

You ought to be ashamed MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #19

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Na its the lack of solidarity MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #48

It's not even an internally consistent hatred. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #34

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Neither I, you, nor anybody else here even knows who the "dumb-asses" are supposed to be, Romulox Jan 2012 #45

hope no one notices MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #51

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What? LOL MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #74

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I agree with you. Having lived in red areas for many, many years, and hearing them complain TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #35

Can you please provide a list of 'good' factories and 'bad'? Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #37

Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #40

As I've said, I feel bad for Democratic voters in red areas, especially those who lose their jobs TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #42

You don't even know that anyone there feels that way. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #43

Reading comprehension not your bag, eh? I assume there's Democrats, liberals, the apolitical, and TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #49

Got any stereotypes for them? Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #50

?? When a given area predominantly votes for Republicans, it's safe to assume they TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #52

Just clarifying your conditional humanity. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #53

OK, pal. TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #54

+1 SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #78

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Your comments, below, tend to take some of the bite out of your critique of globalism. Romulox Jan 2012 #33

Aren't you an imported car enthusiast? nt Romulox Jan 2012 #20

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You seem a bad spokesperson for the "interests" of US factory workers. That's all. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #32

Where is the product in your avatar made? Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #38

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Bzzt. Check the cash on AAPL's balance sheet, the price of their products, and report back. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #46

I was determined to stay out of this one but bighart Jan 2012 #55

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So if regualtion and tax rates favored US produciton they would produce here bighart Jan 2012 #61

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I would really like to read some of the data that leads you to conclude that bighart Jan 2012 #71

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I don't dislike apple, have several of the products they offer bighart Jan 2012 #83

3 cars MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #73

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I'd expect someone that owns 3 cars and ones a porsche MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #88

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Which to value more: union labor (if foreign) or American labor (if non-union). pampango Jan 2012 #90

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That's the way to win friends & influence people WolverineDG Jan 2012 #23

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What would you propose as a solution? bighart Jan 2012 #56

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Citizens vote on budgets? bighart Jan 2012 #72

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Considering that I am from the South WolverineDG Jan 2012 #57

would voting for equally-neoliberal, pro-outsourcing Dems have helped their MisterP Jan 2012 #60

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Spot on. Both major parties are principally neo-liberal. Laelth Jan 2012 #94

this is what is meant by a "right to work" state onethatcares Jan 2012 #4

So you think it's OK for a factory to close, MadHound Jan 2012 #5

no, I don't think it's ok for a factory to close, especially onethatcares Jan 2012 #62

Just a note here Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #6

IIRC MO is not a Right to Work State lacrew Jan 2012 #13

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hmmmm AmandaRuth Jan 2012 #70

Meanwhile, Obama refuses to renegotiate NAFTA brentspeak Jan 2012 #76

Yea, my job was moved out of the country about ten years before NAFTA, thanks NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #82

The Hanes work is being sourced down to Mexico b/c of NAFTA brentspeak Jan 2012 #84

Given our experience with China, what makes you think that Hanes would not move to pampango Jan 2012 #85

How would Mexican-made Hanes products avoid a USA tariff if NAFTA didn't exist? brentspeak Jan 2012 #86

They wouldn't avoid a US tariff, but then neither do Chinese products. n/t pampango Jan 2012 #87