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lapucelle

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60. Yes, indeed, we do have Ralph Nadar to "thank" for The Bush presidency, the Iraq War,
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 01:23 PM
Jan 2020
the Roberts / Citizen's United Court, and the current state of our environment.

[T]he debate has raised questions about how the support that each candidate has voiced for the environment might translate into practice. Mr. Gore, for example, is being backed by most major environmental groups, but in other quarters, his past statement that environmental protection should become ''the central organizing principle for civilization'' is being portrayed by his opponents as evidence of either betrayal or bad judgment.

''This administration tries to take credit for our economy, but they seem to have forgotten what makes it turn,'' Mr. Bush said over the summer, in outlining what he has portrayed as a more practical view. ''Even today, in our new, high-tech economy, America runs on oil and gas and coal gained from the earth and water held behind our dams.''

Mr. Gore still clearly sees the environment as a winning issue, and his campaign has tried to focus attention on Mr. Bush's environmental record in Texas, which Gore aides say should raise deep doubts about the governor's commitment to protection. ''When it comes to the environment, I've never given up, I've never turned back, and I never will,'' Mr. Gore said at recent rallies.

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''Al Gore is suffering from election-year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,'' Mr. Nader said recently. ''He should be held accountable by voters for eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.''

Even though the Clinton administration has disappointed them on some issues, such as its failure to tighten automobile fuel-economy, most leading environmentalists have rallied to Mr. Gore. He, more than anyone else, they argue, deserves credit for the administration's environmental achievements. Furthermore, as president, they reason, he would finally have the freedom to put his own agenda in place.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/03/us/2000-campaign-environment-favorite-issue-gore-finds-himself-2-front-defense.html

No wonder Ralph Nadar received the Nobel Peace Prize for his environmental activism.

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Reagan and Eisenhower would be Dems today aeromanKC Dec 2019 #1
Eisenhower yes edhopper Dec 2019 #18
Reagan WAS a Democrat until 1962 and in fact he was a strong union advocate at one time: George II Dec 2019 #34
Yes, but edhopper Dec 2019 #36
Reagan turned R thanks to Nancy's father Freddie Jan 2020 #55
Nixon would definitely be a democrat! Greybnk48 Jan 2020 #54
Bull --- Check govtrack and see it is more liberal. LiberalFighter Dec 2019 #2
+1000 UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #3
Certainly it is more socially liberal but in its heyday the party was economically liberal. hedda_foil Dec 2019 #42
The decline of support for labor & workers rights has really appalachiablue Dec 2019 #45
Kick for visibility appalachiablue Dec 2019 #46
Preach! redqueen Dec 2019 #48
Well done synopsis n/t Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #52
"How we got here" in a nutshell. Thanks. nt Atticus Jan 2020 #57
Any PoliSci 102 class will show that. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #4
Same with a US History 101 course (where I first learned it). redqueen Dec 2019 #7
After WWII there was a bonus. The Republican Party used Prosper Dec 2019 #5
Bernie is no FDR, and the country is a very different situation than it was during his ehrnst Jan 2020 #50
Yes, and we really need to track left. marble falls Dec 2019 #6
It's not a yes or no question Recursion Dec 2019 #8
Interestingly, support for legal abortion wasn't always a partisan issue. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #9
Yes, it was. Democrats weren't always solidly pro-choice. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #53
got there first stopdiggin Dec 2019 #39
I agree that it's mostly a mixed bag within 40 yrs. Overall... WePurrsevere Jan 2020 #59
No. For most of the last 40 years, it held fairly steady. Recently, it's shifted left a bit. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #10
Democrats moves significantly to the right economically Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #31
The Democratic Party, as a whole, has consistently... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #33
Some more fyi on the Overton window... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #38
Yes n/t leftstreet Dec 2019 #11
Results are p much what I expected. redqueen Dec 2019 #12
Absolutely yes in the wake of the Reagan era, but the pendulum has made a swing bullwinkle428 Dec 2019 #13
Thanks! redqueen Dec 2019 #15
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No, I don't think so. MineralMan Dec 2019 #16
More like "dragged" to the right. moondust Dec 2019 #17
Bingo! nt redqueen Dec 2019 #21
And many years (decades) of 'going along to get along' Doremus Dec 2019 #24
Yes. moondust Dec 2019 #32
+1 honest.abe Dec 2019 #28
I think it depends on the issues. crickets Dec 2019 #19
IDK Recursion Dec 2019 #35
On social policy the Democratic Party has moved steadily left, economically it moved rightwards andym Dec 2019 #20
I'd say on environmental policy we have not, and that it was in fact that very thing redqueen Dec 2019 #22
Yes, indeed, we do have Ralph Nadar to "thank" for The Bush presidency, the Iraq War, lapucelle Jan 2020 #60
What Hubert Humphrey ran on in '68 looks like Bernie now DBoon Dec 2019 #23
GOP politicians spent decades Skidmore Dec 2019 #25
Democratic party did what it had to do to compete with filthy, disgusting cheaters Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 #27
There is no KGB. Its been disbanded for decades now. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #41
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #26
Campaign finance, including dark money has affected our whole political landscape. Dustlawyer Dec 2019 #29
Interesting question Dave in VA Dec 2019 #30
If one studies history, they would learn that all parties drift left or right, and back again and... SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #37
Some ways yes, other ways no. Turin_C3PO Dec 2019 #40
Well, it's shifted to people who can get elected... brooklynite Dec 2019 #43
With a little (lot of) help from the M$M. redqueen Dec 2019 #49
Something to think over appalachiablue Dec 2019 #44
No, it has shifted to the left (and that's a good thing) Polybius Dec 2019 #47
ok just remember where the Dem party was in the 40s and 50s.. samnsara Jan 2020 #51
Is this a serious question? nt Atticus Jan 2020 #56
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