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16. Not giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone.

Reply to rufus dog (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 24, 2020, 10:49 PM

Jan 2020

Counseling caution on our part for the accusation.

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I know I'll get slammed for this, but I don't think the Parnas tape on ABC shows a hit order [View all] Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 OP

Neither do I. brooklynite Jan 2020 #1

I don't believe they had the power to fire her. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #2

From Wikipedia: Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #10

Parnas et al had no right to fire her. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #36

No, of course not. Trump did. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #43

According to Parnas, Trump directed the get her out comment to his aide, Joe DeStefano onenote Jan 2020 #62

Thanks! All reasonable an possible. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #64

Thanks. Makes sense and answers some questions of mine. Midnight Writer Jan 2020 #81

Benefit of the Doubt? rufus dog Jan 2020 #3

Not giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #16

Nope rufus dog Jan 2020 #65

+1000000000000 triron Jan 2020 #87

Why did he send thugs to stalk the ambassador? ecstatic Jan 2020 #4

All that gets filed in the "Who the fuck knows why they do things like this? file Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #18

Except we do know. As hard as it might be to accept. ecstatic Jan 2020 #32

Who else was in the room? who was next in the line of talk who was NOT in the room. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #44

Then why didn't they do it? jberryhill Jan 2020 #85

Agreed Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2020 #5

If he wanted her fired, why didn't he fire her? dflprincess Jan 2020 #6

Yes, it can be taken that way. But it shouldn't Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #21

I think the answer to this question is remarkably simple. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #58

-THAT- is eminently believable! Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #66

I can see that. dflprincess Jan 2020 #68

The real story is WHY he wanted her out. madaboutharry Jan 2020 #7

I thought the narcissist moron was upset with her .. CatMor Jan 2020 #15

I agree KT2000 Jan 2020 #8

Exactly Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #11

King MobBoss the First blm Jan 2020 #13

People with no power "sound" like mobsters. tinrobot Jan 2020 #26

And then it took a year to fire her mainstreetonce Jan 2020 #9

Can't answer that. But making the "he called for her murder" argument is a separate thing. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #23

I agree mainstreetonce Jan 2020 #28

Because she knew the politics and corruption wnylib Jan 2020 #84

On Rachel right now. Let's see.... Hekate Jan 2020 #12

Caught the last part of that. Mersky Jan 2020 #41

The tape is almost an hour and a half long, and was stored in the Cloud (?). Evil & stupid... Hekate Jan 2020 #82

Lol. No doubt. Mersky Jan 2020 #83

That may be the case, but... Salviati Jan 2020 #14

It does prove he directed her firing C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #17

Absolutely no doubt about that! Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #24

And how were they supposed do that? Lars39 Jan 2020 #19

It's more than just one video. Add in the texts from from Robert Hyde to Parnas. tinrobot Jan 2020 #20

Let's not trip over ourselves by crediting brains to pure kooks. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #27

You kind of have to be a kook to work for these guys... tinrobot Jan 2020 #37

I think that H2O Man Jan 2020 #52

Add this to, "She's going to go through some things." wnylib Jan 2020 #22

Think about this: Ambassadors can be fired for any reason or no reason. Period! Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #30

Absolutely, but not by a couple of trump's goons, Parnas and Fruman. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #70

See posts 62 and 49 Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #73

Tell that to Khashoggi's ghost. wnylib Jan 2020 #75

And Epstein's. triron Jan 2020 #89

Trump'is a coward who doesn't like to face wnylib Jan 2020 #92

OK. I've heard the tape and have to admit wnylib Jan 2020 #95

I agree. Trump is a bully and enjoys using tough, thuggish language. Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #25

"take her out" was the wording Red Don used for Someli Iranian guy uponit7771 Jan 2020 #29

Its the way he talks. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #33

"We took him out, which is something that... dchill Jan 2020 #61

No direct connection Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #69

Excellent point triron Jan 2020 #90

Solemani was Trump trying get one up on Obama with bin Laden Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #97

Trump used the same type of language when talking about Soleimani. Let's take him out. sarcasmo Jan 2020 #31

See #33 directly above. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #35

Agreed n/t Blaukraut Jan 2020 #34

Michael Cohen said Trump talks in code. He doesn't spell things out. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2020 #38

+1000000 Pachamama Jan 2020 #53

So.... why didn't he use his signature line? SlogginThroughIt Jan 2020 #39

Dump never fires people directly. He is a CORRUPT COWARD. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #47

A few years ago I would have agreed with you. Now, I am not so sure. Tech Jan 2020 #40

But if he merely wanted her fired, he would have gone through official channels wishstar Jan 2020 #42

I really do think most people get that it was not an order for 'hit' from the fake don. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #45

The thing is that there was this "take her out" and then she gets the middle of the night call bloom Jan 2020 #46

The good thing about the tape coming out is it's unscripted Trump eleny Jan 2020 #48

Absotively and Posilutely!!! Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #50

Like my dad always used to assert, "Yeah, No, Maybe!" eleny Jan 2020 #57

So . . . . . From atty Bondy on Maddow, there were officials and staff in the room when he said it. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #49

I dunno. It's not like Parnas' attorney will admit that his client ecstatic Jan 2020 #80

It doesn't. Some people went off half-cocked. coti Jan 2020 #51

He talks "mob" to sound tough, but I agree with you here. herding cats Jan 2020 #54

I think the most important thing about the Parnas tape is that FM123 Jan 2020 #55

Let's play "If Obama had said it..." EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #56

Fine. But combine this with the texts about her surveillance intrepidity Jan 2020 #59

Yes. +1 Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #67

Is he asking them to.fire her? Who is he having fire her? These guys are not government officials, AJT Jan 2020 #60

The key to this is Joe DeStefano - See post #62. onenote Jan 2020 #63

Also #49 Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #72

But raises question of why John Di Stefano didn't have firing letter sent to her wishstar Jan 2020 #76

It could be that he checked with State and decided not to do it onenote Jan 2020 #78

Another pretty obvious point... jberryhill Jan 2020 #101

I don't, either. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #71

Inclined to agree but moondust Jan 2020 #74

You don't think and talk like mobsters. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2020 #77

I don't either DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #79

With you. Plus, I think a lot of Prezs would remove someone who is not supportative. With Hoyt Jan 2020 #86

I don't either,... stillcool Jan 2020 #88

I agree with you. nt DesertRat Jan 2020 #91

I agree with you. nt Raine Jan 2020 #93

no matter what it wasn't good FormerOstrich Jan 2020 #94

The Reich wing Varaddem Jan 2020 #96

I'm torn. Someone made an excellent point yesterday: Mike 03 Jan 2020 #98

In the room were people who COULD fire her. Stinky The Clown Jan 2020 #99

Correct. In fact, Parnas himself said Trump directed the command to get rid of her to DeStefano onenote Jan 2020 #105

I'm sorry - you don't know how a mobster speaks... harumph Jan 2020 #100

HOWEVER, il drumpf did insist he never met Parnas The Blue Flower Jan 2020 #102

Tough Guy hyperbole? no_hypocrisy Jan 2020 #103

But the thing is, Parnas and Fruman didn't have the authority dewsgirl Jan 2020 #104

Whoa! I DISAGREE empedocles Jan 2020 #106

It's certainly NOT a hit. He's just pissed Roland99 Jan 2020 #107

I think it's plain as day. EndlessWire Jan 2020 #108