That works the opposite way, too. (Reply #25)

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Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:40 PM

TheWraith (24,331 posts)

25. That works the opposite way, too.

People who want to see OWS as a ideal, noble movement with perfect tactics dismiss and deny anything which goes against that. Right here on DU not too long ago I was told that a 19 year old girl who reported being raped at an OWS demonstration was "obviously" a paid shill sent to "discredit the movement" because nothing like that could EVER happen at an OWS rally.

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48 replies	Author	Time	Post
OWS' need to connect...and how? [View all]	FirstLight	Dec 2011	OP
"OWS tactics are hurting the message"	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#1
It's not a "meme," it's the facts.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#2
It's a "même" reinforced by "the facts". After that it's all a matter of confirmation bias.	The Doctor.	Dec 2011	#5
That works the opposite way, too.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#25
I thought that was implied.	The Doctor.	Dec 2011	#27
"The Facts" is a meme	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#23
No, it's called objective reality.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#26
The mere facts in the study you cite don't support your opinion as "fact".	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#31
Practically anything that screws up traffic is worthy.	dkf	Dec 2011	#3
OWS IS connecting	pinboy3niner	Dec 2011	#4
Very good. Thanks!	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#33
very powerfull piece. Thanks for posting it.	applegrove	Dec 2011	#38
Your concern is duly noted.	Edweird	Dec 2011	#6
++.	backscatter712	Dec 2011	#28
seriously?	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#7
Precisely why I usually just read these	leftynyc	Dec 2011	#8
Time is what the movement has on its side	mmonk	Dec 2011	#9
thanks	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#10
They recognize some problems by the symptoms	mmonk	Dec 2011	#14
Here's another one of my pie-in-the-sky ideas....	OneGrassRoot	Dec 2011	#12
That would be nice and I share such a dream.	mmonk	Dec 2011	#15
hehe	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#18
Invite them to attend a local General Assembly. I can almost 100% guarantee	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2011	#11
exactly	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#16
there was a story on the radio yesterday about how Occupy Portland closed down some port terminals	renate	Dec 2011	#13
Victories are seldom won without sacrifice and a willingness to fight for better.	mmonk	Dec 2011	#17
The protests at the docks are trying to point out the fact that dock workers	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#20
This is a recipe for self-marginalization.	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#24
Two points	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#32
No, when they're told to stay home for safety or health reasons,	Remember Me	Dec 2011	#37
When someone says that OWS is using the wrong tactics, just ask the person what tactics	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#19
BEAUTIFULLY SAID!!!!!	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#21
+1	AntiFascist	Dec 2011	#30
Need to narrow the focus to one issue	NNN0LHI	Dec 2011	#22
Part of this is the very conservative, elite driven, media.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#29
Do you really think the media controls how DUers think?	randome	Dec 2011	#34
Actually to a point yes	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#35
that and thought generally needs a sort of factual "canvas" to work upon	themadstork	Dec 2011	#43
Exactly	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#44
I think the OWS movement started out right	mvd	Dec 2011	#36
The civil rights movement got the same type of commentary...in the beginning.	U4ikLefty	Dec 2011	#39
thanks, good to hear	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#41
The great development here in Occupy LA	U4ikLefty	Dec 2011	#46
...	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#47
Not neccessarily a bad thing	themadstork	Dec 2011	#40
last sentence	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#42
I wonder about the same thing every day.	themadstork	Dec 2011	#45
..	mdmc	Feb 2012	#48

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