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In reply to the discussion: If there is a Civil War II, and we win ..... [View all]SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)...when the time comes. Which, like many, I anticipate is coming.
But why shed blood if both factions are so fed up with each other they're both ready to call it quits? Let's do an amicable divorce. It'll be difficult to achieve, but it'll be the way to proceed when most of the country is finally ready.
A nation's lands don't have to be contiguous... Alaska isn't continguous with the rest of the U.S. The Northeast, Upper Midwest, and entire West Coast could comprise the remaining United States. The West Coast wouldn't have to be contiguous with the eastern and midwestern U.S.
Most of the rest could be the... Southern Christian States of America, or whatever fucked up thing they choose to be. Theocracy, autocracy, oligarchy, kleptocracy, hereditary monarchy, apartheid state (like Israel's becoming), whatever. It's becoming time to let 'em have their own place and be whatever it is they think they want to be.
Because about 40% of Americans would rather sabotage all of our institutions of democracy -- as they presently are -- rather than accept that their political opponents be allowed to win elections, or to govern when they do. What other rational response is there when one's fellow countrymen abandon every principle they've ever had in favor of simply holding onto power by any means necessary and at any cost?
I don't foresee them returning to reason. Not when they've tasted what suppressing opposition voters, gerrymandering, the big advantage the electoral college gives them in our now increasingly geopgraphically aligned politics, trafficking in disinformation, and foreign intervention smearing Democrats over social media can do for them. Now that they've figured out they have (or can take) unfair advantages for hanging onto power in all 3 branches of government even as the minority party, what motivation do they have to return to sanity and any semblance of fairness?
Nothing is forever... especially invisible lines on maps.
Just letting the South go, btw, remained a not-impossible option in 1861 right up until South Carolinians started firing on Fort Sumter.
Putting in the hard work required to do a peaceful partitioning this time is the way to do it.