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Hekate

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41. Imagine on the eve of Civil War 1, that the POTUS was a Southern plantation owner & not Abe Lincoln

Fri Jan 31, 2020, 05:05 PM

Jan 2020

How do you imagine he would have greeted the secession of the Southern states? If Union troops had to be deployed -- would they have been deployed to defend the USA and its Constitution? Or something else?

When 20th century gun-humpers screamed about another Civil War, they never imagined that in the 21st century the gubmint they hated would already be taken over by assholes sympathetic to them.

I've always maintained that "civil war" and "race war" fantasies would run smack against the fact that the US government has all the firepower...

So back to the Commander in Chief. This one. We're already worried that he has his hands on the nukes. What if he decides to turn the Armed Forces on us?

I'm not in a good frame of mind just now, so I will stop.

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If there is a Civil War II, and we win ..... [View all] dumbcat Jan 2020 OP

Shake hands, tell them all is forgiven, let them destroy us again next century FiveGoodMen Jan 2020 #1

It only took them 155 years Zolorp Jan 2020 #3

I think we need to bdamomma Jan 2020 #2

But, as many have said, the vote will be rigged dumbcat Jan 2020 #5

So bdamomma Jan 2020 #10

Without the rule of law any longer valud, they died in vain Moostache Jan 2020 #29

WSell if we don't win, what do we do? If we do, do you really think tRump will just accept the KPN Jan 2020 #30

So we are going bdamomma Jan 2020 #37

I might be wrong as it is only my opinion Doreen Jan 2020 #4

I think that's also what the Founders intended dumbcat Jan 2020 #6

Perhaps all of it. Doreen Jan 2020 #23

You make it sound like the bible! not_the_one Jan 2020 #44

I agree. Doreen Jan 2020 #46

No one will win that. n/t NCLefty Jan 2020 #7

We already won randr Jan 2020 #8

I don't think the first one ever ended. djg21 Jan 2020 #18

You think a modern civil war is winnable????? Blue_true Jan 2020 #9

I disagree in part. EndlessWire Jan 2020 #12

Ive been thinking about this a lot Squidly Jan 2020 #15

Trumplandia may launch an attack on the real USA, but that will be Blue_true Jan 2020 #17

I would vote for the north Squidly Jan 2020 #20

It should be east and west, then each get a tropical part of the current country. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #21

if there is another civil war.... quickesst Jan 2020 #11

That is why the concept of a civil war is so silly. Blue_true Feb 2020 #55

Well it's what the right is thinking durablend Feb 2020 #61

The fire back part is key. Those pinheads don't realize that a civil war won't be a shooting Blue_true Feb 2020 #62

I agree quickesst Feb 2020 #63

A few questions before building our brave new world sarisataka Jan 2020 #13

I think it will be a peaceful dissolution of the union... into 2 or perhaps 3 smaller republics. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #14

they are incapable of peaceul anything rampartc Jan 2020 #33

It won't be "40 acres and a mule"... Raster Jan 2020 #16

It would never happen Midnightwalk Jan 2020 #19

I still remember about a decade ago how funny I thought it was that... WyattKansas Jan 2020 #22

It's not the Civil War, it's the aftermath... Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #24

War is *NOT* the answer. Initech Feb 2020 #52

It should be possible to partition the current U.S. peacefully SuprstitionAintthWay Jan 2020 #25

No, it won't. Because no state is completely blue or completely red. scheming daemons Jan 2020 #27

If we split along political/personal ideologies there is a way to split. Blue_true Feb 2020 #56

The country should be split into solid eastern and western halves. Blue_true Feb 2020 #54

Not worth discussing, because there won't be. Except at the ballot box. scheming daemons Jan 2020 #26

One thing is make sure that all the politicians that backed this coup are severely punished. Kablooie Jan 2020 #28

I agree we can't let these politicians get away with this. We can't be soft with these traitors dustyscamp Jan 2020 #31

"We"? The enemy is Commander in Chief. Hekate Jan 2020 #32

I'm not sure what you mean dumbcat Jan 2020 #38

Imagine on the eve of Civil War 1, that the POTUS was a Southern plantation owner & not Abe Lincoln Hekate Jan 2020 #41

You make a good point sarisataka Jan 2020 #45

I believe the military will break up also. Blue_true Feb 2020 #60

I read a comment by a retired two star general. Blue_true Feb 2020 #59

No. The problem are the 63 million Americans that gave that traitor power. Blue_true Feb 2020 #57

I'm afraid that we are getting close to a second civil war PBC_Democrat Jan 2020 #34

Well consdering 2% of the population died in the CWI, I think "WE" better jmg257 Jan 2020 #35

a new country either way scarytomcat Jan 2020 #36

An amicable partitioning, without war, is the only rational solution I can foresee. SuprstitionAintthWay Jan 2020 #40

Never. Do you know the history of the partitioning of India and Pakistan? Best read up on that. Hekate Jan 2020 #42

I do know it. Do you? Fortunately for us the history of Republican SuprstitionAintthWay Jan 2020 #48

Okay, just prepare yourself for the reality that nobody wants to actually move... Hekate Feb 2020 #50

Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine, sarisataka Jan 2020 #43

If I recall Ukraine and Georgia got away fairly cleanly at first SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #49

I do agree with you, you make great points scarytomcat Feb 2020 #53

Then those of us that survive shift through the rubble fescuerescue Jan 2020 #39

If there is a Civil war II, I am wearing blue, just as I would have in 1861-5. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #47

Civil War can be quick -- November 3. Hoyt Feb 2020 #51

... depending on the "outcome" of the electoral votes. Maybe not so quick. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #58