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Bohunk68

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29. I've been working at

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:03 AM

Sep 2012

civil rights for the GLBT community ever since I was ousted from the Navy for being gay back in 1964. I've been out and proud when it was not a popular thing to do. I constantly am on fb slamming the pedophile priests and those who protect them, Nolan being one of them. I live in a rural redneck community and am out there for the last 32 years. I live in danger every fricking day. As it was, I heard about the controversy before it happened and managed to change my C-span and not hear the slimeball. What he said does NOT in any way detract what all the other Dems said over and over again. I choose not to go into a corner and pout. It seems to me that you were just looking for an excuse not to contribute and you have it. You do a disservice to all others on the ticket.

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Mr. President, the GayTM is no longer in service. [View all] Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 OP

I'm sorry that Dolan spoke cali Sep 2012 #1

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #6

Bigotry? No...impatience is not bigotry. I am annoyed that the OP msanthrope Sep 2012 #16

wasnt aimed at you. you gave a reasoned argument not a snide little comment loli phabay Sep 2012 #22

I know...but I don't think cali was bigoted. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #31

mayby that was the wrong word to hse but the little snide comment got me loli phabay Sep 2012 #39

disagreement is not bigotry. that's a huge stretch there because someone doesn't agree with you progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #172

bigotry? How fucking cheap, dishonest, and classless could you possibly be? cali Sep 2012 #17

and yet you still felt the need for the little snide dismissive comment loli phabay Sep 2012 #24

The lady protests rightly! arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #26

lol. all the cliches belong to you cali Sep 2012 #66

and yet you do seem to wear them well and with pride loli phabay Sep 2012 #71

Dolan IS a huge bigot obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #118

I'm very disappointed in this post from you Marrah_G Sep 2012 #21

While my feelings are different than Pab Sungenis I find your response painful. Ms. Toad Sep 2012 #65

"Thanks for your little post." /nt yardwork Sep 2012 #74

Galvanized me as well cali goclark Sep 2012 #105

I held my tongue last night because the rest of the night was great Marrah_G Sep 2012 #2

This obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #120

Yes. That, for sure. nt Zorra Sep 2012 #223

I don't think President Obama was 'hippie punching' or 'queer-baiting' bigtree Sep 2012 #3

I did not see the ending convocation. That said, the entire week was one of inclusion & empowerment hlthe2b Sep 2012 #7

of course, it doesn't 'wipe out the entire week' at all bigtree Sep 2012 #10

I wasn't implying you were saying so. Actually, I responded to your post in agreement with you hlthe2b Sep 2012 #18

it was a great week bigtree Sep 2012 #23

I think you all should BE the folks with strong and righteous conviction refusing to accept this. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #90

Lashing out at those who firmly in support of you? hlthe2b Sep 2012 #108

actually, I AM one of the folks refusing to support this bigtree Sep 2012 #164

then I misunderstood. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #186

Here's a transcript muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #106

This was literally what the DNC ended with obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #122

Tone deaf decision... hlthe2b Sep 2012 #131

It was done for the exact same reason anything that caused complaints at this convention was done dmallind Sep 2012 #57

agree bigtree Sep 2012 #60

Does the President choose Dolan, or the DNC? treestar Sep 2012 #59

it's just that bigtree Sep 2012 #68

Maybe, but he may have to delegate a lot and this included treestar Sep 2012 #89

If they have to bring religion into it at all, enlightenment Sep 2012 #112

Good point -- ask clergy from Charlotte or NC obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #123

I don't know why they choose this treestar Sep 2012 #150

Who ever's fault it was....yep there's that lack of accountability again.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #88

I stock shelves for a living bigtree Sep 2012 #159

Glad to hear you say that... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #182

Are you making excuses for it? No, you are not. I said 'excuse making straight people' Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #193

I enjoy your posts and I appreciate the support you are expressing in this thread. yardwork Sep 2012 #197

I think that you may be misunderstanding some posts here. yardwork Sep 2012 #196

Thank you. Jamastiene Sep 2012 #153

Why do you refuse to talk about the background of this conflict? msanthrope Sep 2012 #4

Yes... you are right about the context. hlthe2b Sep 2012 #9

Note that no major gay rights organizations took the bait. BO isn't being msanthrope Sep 2012 #11

still does not mean people cant be annoyed or upset. loli phabay Sep 2012 #46

Absolutely. But posting about not donating is another thing. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #99

Frankly, the excuse that they couldn't tell the man, "no thanks" enlightenment Sep 2012 #114

They had one of the "Nuns on the Bus," and frankly, did you hear a speaker that did not talk about msanthrope Sep 2012 #121

So is everyone on DU required to donate to the Obama campaign? morningfog Sep 2012 #244

Wow, that explains A LOT nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #19

I am not convinced by your assessment of the political consequences of declining the invite. Vattel Sep 2012 #41

It would have started a pissing match because Dolan is a repuke ally and would have whined about it. msanthrope Sep 2012 #102

I think you are just rationalizing a mistake. Vattel Sep 2012 #160

Respectfully, I think you are incorrect. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #163

I was hoping that Dems were finally done with giving their lunch money to RW bullies Zorra Sep 2012 #224

Sounds like doubling down on the wrong to me. suffragette Sep 2012 #247

"Have a pissing match with a Catholic Cardinal 60 days before an election? " NCTraveler Sep 2012 #56

Heck maybe the WomanTM ought to close too treestar Sep 2012 #61

Because if you don't see it, it isn't happening? enlightenment Sep 2012 #116

Of all those claiming to be disappointed in Obama or seeing problems treestar Sep 2012 #149

Some of them might have learned their lesson LadyHawkAZ Sep 2012 #173

That's a good point deutsey Sep 2012 #72

Well the context changes everything. JoeyT Sep 2012 #73

You are my 7th direct reply. So, yeah, people are addressing my point, thanks. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #104

Sadly you ignored mine. JoeyT Sep 2012 #181

It sounds like they tried. If you recall Obama rebuffed Dolan. joshcryer Sep 2012 #229

May I be the 8th? Or... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #183

The point is Dolan could have spent a lot of time screaming about how Dems are attacking religion jeff47 Sep 2012 #209

Except he *was* rebuffed. Dolan still weaseled his way in there. joshcryer Sep 2012 #230

Perfect if you only think about the convention itself. jeff47 Sep 2012 #240

It's a strategic fail. They should've seen it coming. joshcryer Sep 2012 #228

i felt that way about the president's speech. iemitsu Sep 2012 #5

Well, she ain't running jsmirman Sep 2012 #115

yeah, i know. iemitsu Sep 2012 #188

Can you begin jsmirman Sep 2012 #212

Obama/Biden/Clinton/Granholm: THEY spoke for us. Dolan was rope-a-doped, a useful idiot. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #8

Useful how? ananda Sep 2012 #13

Useful in catching any stray conservative Catholics. "Hey, Ma! Look who spoke for Obama!" WinkyDink Sep 2012 #14

How about next time we get a preacher from Stormfront? Marrah_G Sep 2012 #20

False equivalency jsmirman Sep 2012 #30

problem is thats not how some people see it. you gotta realise we all have different loli phabay Sep 2012 #34

And yet almost the entire Convention rollout is an affront to the issues jsmirman Sep 2012 #43

yup and thats your call to make. i would no more attack you for complaining loli phabay Sep 2012 #50

Unfortunately for us, we know what to expect jsmirman Sep 2012 #53

yup we all ha e different causes and its hard sometimes to wear the other persons heels loli phabay Sep 2012 #55

Equal rights is not a complaint about a souffle. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #93

You've lost the plot. You're complaining about one guy after jsmirman Sep 2012 #125

So you are saying that the mention of LGBT issues was for HIM? So all of those mentions were Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #91

What? That's insanity. jsmirman Sep 2012 #119

I read your post that way, too obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #128

You read it as "this was all a show for Dolan" or jsmirman Sep 2012 #135

Maybe next time Wayne LaPierre can speak Doctor_J Sep 2012 #37

he should have had a speaker from every religion then. you know. to catch all the strays. piratefish08 Sep 2012 #48

The crazy anti gay preacher lives in Maiden obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #126

Giving Dolan the pulpit was a colossal mistake Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #12

Yeah, I just don't understand that ending either. ananda Sep 2012 #15

It didn't end with Dolan, it ended with Obama. Curtland1015 Sep 2012 #25

Don't do that. It ended with Dolan, Dolan had the last and final word, and that word was Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #95

It ended with Dolan, not President Obama obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #129

Don't pull out the "gay" card mick063 Sep 2012 #27

while I'm looking in on this post bigtree Sep 2012 #36

So, our civil rights are now "The Gay Card"? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #130

Gay card....really? Marrah_G Sep 2012 #157

What looks like a "card" to you has significant consequences for the lives of real people. sibelian Sep 2012 #161

Good lord - could you be more insulting. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #175

Please think about what you just posted. Would you have said, "Don't push your luck" to a person Heidi Sep 2012 #238

You are fucking kidding, right? dogday Sep 2012 #241

COME ON. See post #4 jsmirman Sep 2012 #28

I've got my ice skates on, and Satan just ordered Hitler to rev up the Zamboni...... msanthrope Sep 2012 #35

Indeed jsmirman Sep 2012 #45

lol is this one of these magical kodak moments ive read about ;) loli phabay Sep 2012 #52

It's like a lemur mating with a goose jsmirman Sep 2012 #54

I can picture it right now dogday Sep 2012 #242

I've been working at Bohunk68 Sep 2012 #29

Well said... SidDithers Sep 2012 #32

Thank you jsmirman Sep 2012 #33

Well said, and thank you! n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #47

thanks to the three of you who responded to me Bohunk68 Sep 2012 #92

Thank you again - so frustrated - this whole thread feels like a Dolan win jsmirman Sep 2012 #132

+ a million. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #171

"Cry babies" obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #138

"Pout"? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #137

Thank you Egnever Sep 2012 #180

Well said - It's good to hear that you get it where others here don't. GoneOffShore Sep 2012 #192

because romney will be so much better rdking647 Sep 2012 #38

Absurd BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #40

I think it would be good if you sent your complaint to the White House lunatica Sep 2012 #42

Oh silly, we learned from the Rick Warren gig, and we do not do stuff like that...oh nevermind. Safetykitten Sep 2012 #44

You're not going to support Democrats, but ProSense Sep 2012 #49

It was a terrible choice.....I'm going to give the DNC the benefit of the doubt..... marmar Sep 2012 #51

Why wasn't an outspoken racist given a speaking role? The Link Sep 2012 #58

There's a big difference between those two things treestar Sep 2012 #64

You could have any number of religious figures close the convention that supports equality justiceischeap Sep 2012 #96

Maybe a gay clergy person treestar Sep 2012 #111

Jim Wallis, Sister Simone, John Spong, local Charlotte clergy obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #141

Never heard them pray about that treestar Sep 2012 #147

Homophobia is a form of bigotry that's acceptable to the nation jeff47 Sep 2012 #210

Give your money where you want. IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #62

"he had a right to be there" marmar Sep 2012 #67

My misunderstanding was that he wasn't trying to meet anyone even part way. IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #155

Yes, as a matter of fact Dolan did "spew homophobia" and he publicly repudiated the Dem platform. yardwork Sep 2012 #77

Just went and googled the speech - and am appalled. IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #154

I agree with you - it was appalling but in no way ruins the rest of a great convention. yardwork Sep 2012 #176

He spewed homophobia and anti women garnage in his so-called prayer obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #142

My original statements stand, with a subsequent clarification: IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #156

When did he speak, and Pres. Obama and most other speakers stood up for gay ecstatic Sep 2012 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author MicaelS Sep 2012 #69

I turned it off before that. liberalmuse Sep 2012 #70

There's a difference now. The administration has a track record. Prism Sep 2012 #75

I agree. I said that in Zorra's thread about this, too. yardwork Sep 2012 #76

Hey you! Prism Sep 2012 #78

Hey there, buddy. How ya doing? yardwork Sep 2012 #79

Well, this seems reasonable jsmirman Sep 2012 #85

He's earned the break from me Prism Sep 2012 #208

Here's a question jsmirman Sep 2012 #211

I was raised conservative Catholic Prism Sep 2012 #217

You might be right jsmirman Sep 2012 #218

I'm somewhat at a loss, though Prism Sep 2012 #219

But I don't think he's just "Bishop X" jsmirman Sep 2012 #226

He's the Head of the Conference of Bishops Prism Sep 2012 #227

My knowledge is not something I'd go to bat on here jsmirman Sep 2012 #233

The thing about Dolan is that it was an unforced error, DURHAM D Sep 2012 #177

I'm much cagier about the election Prism Sep 2012 #207

As a gay man I am disappointed in Dolan.... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #80

+ a gazillion DonRedwood Sep 2012 #84

I'd like to see the Democratic community stand up and reject that message loudly Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #103

agreed...but will you stop voting democrat until you get it? DonRedwood Sep 2012 #189

+ a hundred bazillion. I don't view one incident as a reason to turn my back on my fellow americans. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #170

'Purists' 'ponies'! You know what? This is what drives ME nuts in every election. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #225

Cardinal Dolan thanks you jberryhill Sep 2012 #81

I see what you mean but I understand where the poster is coming from. n/t vaberella Sep 2012 #94

I understand it too jberryhill Sep 2012 #113

The ones that fell for the manipulation were the Democratic leaders.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #140

I believe our Democratic leaders are going to continue to advance the cause of equality jberryhill Sep 2012 #146

He only has the power that the Democratic leaders choose to give him.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #152

+1000 slampoet Sep 2012 #100

In 1975 it was illegal on the West Coast for two men to dance together. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #82

I think having the Cardinal mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2012 #83

I completely respect and support your post. K/R vaberella Sep 2012 #86

How much were you going to donate? cliffordu Sep 2012 #87

You missed a great opportunity. You should've donated Robb Sep 2012 #97

Snort! great white snark Sep 2012 #178

Wow a post from a "gay" contributor that overreacts and offers no facts as to the back ground and slampoet Sep 2012 #98

By challenged you mean bashed? The Link Sep 2012 #101

ugly, disgusting remark n/t DemocratsForProgress Sep 2012 #109

appalling post obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #143

Jury says it's OK, though. QC Sep 2012 #166

Yeah. Juries. Iggo Sep 2012 #245

I suggest you go and read Dolan's speech. nt sibelian Sep 2012 #162

What are you, twelve years old? Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #185

Wow, a Democratic event featuring anti gay rhetoric to please the Straight Community Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #187

What's up with the scare quotes around gay? LeftyMom Sep 2012 #234

I know some people don't think this is a big deal IVoteDFL Sep 2012 #107

what a childish response. many dems are catholic and deserve representation larkrake Sep 2012 #110

So, all Catholics are anti gay and anti women's rights? obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #144

I was shocked he was allowed to speak obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #117

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #124

"Didn't Do Shit For Gays" DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #136

I appreciate your frustration, enlightenment Sep 2012 #127

Well go luck with that. See if you will find what you are looking for any place else. I'm catholic southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #133

So when you see your neighbor subjected to libel and injustice, you just look the other way? Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #184

If my neighbor needed me I would be there in a second. You only can control the tv by muting or southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #195

Repealed DADT and spoke out for Marriage Equality, not defending DOMA....I think he's doing okay TeamPooka Sep 2012 #134

Yes, cuz if we can't get everything right, we shouldn't get anything right. valerief Sep 2012 #139

Dolan also publicly repudiated the Dem platform obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #145

And it was heard by about 6 people. jeff47 Sep 2012 #213

I am glad that you do not speak for every gay person, even though you think that you do. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #148

Pab, yours was never open. We know that. Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #151

. slampoet Sep 2012 #200

Oh FFS scheming daemons Sep 2012 #158

Who was responsible for booking that colossal asshole? Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #165

I was just going to ask the same question... SoapBox Sep 2012 #167

Well, I suspect this is for the benefit of the site. sibelian Sep 2012 #168

Cool. I think you and your friends will really enjoy life under President Romney. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #169

+ a billion to this jsmirman Sep 2012 #214

What did Obama do to people here? politicasista Sep 2012 #174

Some people just crave discord and seek attention. geek tragedy Sep 2012 #194

Exactly n/t politicasista Sep 2012 #199

Obama personally intervened to change the platform. Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 #201

Yeah you're NOT their base, though, are you? sibelian Sep 2012 #236

Don't give Dolan's speech the import it doesn't deserve. great white snark Sep 2012 #179

I didn't hear dolan's "speech" but Cha Sep 2012 #190

Yawn. This kind of phony victimhood geek tragedy Sep 2012 #191

It's not just gay folks who are offended, but all feminists and child protection advocates as well. yardwork Sep 2012 #198

Agreed. Puglover Sep 2012 #202

Well, that's nothing new. /nt yardwork Sep 2012 #203

It is progress and I will celebrate with you LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #206

Unfortunately, there's about 40 years of work by conservative religious figures that has to be jeff47 Sep 2012 #216

Wouldn't this statement have more weight behind it had you been doing those things before now? Bolo Boffin Sep 2012 #204

+1...nt SidDithers Sep 2012 #205

Wait, TIMOTHY DOLAN did a prayer at the DNC? alp227 Sep 2012 #215

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #220

I alerted on your nasty, offensive, insulting post Marrah_G Sep 2012 #221

I've invited Pab to participate in many events in our shared state of NJ JackBeck Sep 2012 #222

Thank you JackBeck NNN0LHI Sep 2012 #237

Yikes, that don't sound good dogday Sep 2012 #243

so let me get this straight ibegurpard Sep 2012 #231

Thanks so much for saying that Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #232

I wish my conscience would let me do this. JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #235

I'm sure I would've been angry if I had watched mitchtv Sep 2012 #239

This guy is just a terrible poster... Joe the Revelator Sep 2012 #246