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75. In my opinion, the second worst tactical thing the party has ever done

Sat Feb 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

Feb 2020

I think it increased the chances of Trump winning re-election and of us losing more races down ticket.

These folks live for vengeance their over-active amygdalas have been stimulated even more than usual. The fence-sitters have been shaken off, and I don't think that is a Good Thing for November. The need for internal consistency (IOW the need to vote again the way they did before instead of acknowledging that they made a mistake in 2016) will easily override any facts dug up and proven precisely because of the binary nature of 'guilty/innocent (*NOT* "Not guilty" as lawyers try, futilely to explain it) that nearly every person who is not a lawyer applies to any trial

And expect every Democratic president to be impeached any time the Republicans have a majority in the house from now on.

Morally justified? Sure. Important in the larger historical context? Perhaps. Strategically damaging to the Republican party long-term? Possibly.

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Was impeachment worth it? [View all] myohmy2 Feb 2020 OP

It had to been if for nothing else, to put it on the record still_one Feb 2020 #1

Yes! A 2/3 vote was never expected anyway, but this does vividly display Republican corruption. Towlie Feb 2020 #80

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #98

If nothing more it documented what killed the Republic. dem4decades Feb 2020 #2

It was. It put the case before the public. MineralMan Feb 2020 #3

+100000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #53

K&R onetexan Feb 2020 #124

It was the House's duty and they performed it well. spanone Feb 2020 #4

Yes, we could not ignore the behavior. TNNurse Feb 2020 #35

It will only NOT have been worth it if luvtheGWN Feb 2020 #83

I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Quackers Feb 2020 #5

It had to be done and if history survives the Democrats will come out gleaming. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #6

"It had to be done" Nasruddin Feb 2020 #122

Yes. Ninga Feb 2020 #7

Yes, the record will show that the American people are disgusted with him and the GOP walkingman Feb 2020 #8

Yes. It had to be done. Someone had to stand up for The Constitution mnhtnbb Feb 2020 #9

Yes, impeachment was worth it Cirque du So-What Feb 2020 #10

It showed that slightly more than half the country wanted to set rules and guidelines... kentuck Feb 2020 #11

Definitely. I would have been furious if he wasn't impeached. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #12

In a word, yes. catbyte Feb 2020 #13

Absolutely, yes! The record showed he was accused , jrthin Feb 2020 #14

Agreed. c-rational Feb 2020 #39

They had no choice Jarqui Feb 2020 #15

This country will kick any dictator to the curb bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #16

Exactly! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2020 #90

Yeah, then why are so many still enthralled with drumpf? lark Feb 2020 #106

We should have gotten his tax returns out of this fescuerescue Feb 2020 #17

Sure - it was always about the election, and all of this out in the open won't hurt. jmg257 Feb 2020 #18

A nation must have an historical record. So, yes. It was worth it. Impeachment prevents the ancianita Feb 2020 #19

I think the impeachment was well worth it dlk Feb 2020 #20

YES it was. Scarsdale Feb 2020 #21

Absolutely yes. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #22

Yes. mahannah Feb 2020 #23

truth is always worth it. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2020 #24

Yes! I'll take the right side of history any day Ohioboy Feb 2020 #25

No question. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #26

It is always worth it duforsure Feb 2020 #27

Yes... but it doesn't mean they stop here In It to Win It Feb 2020 #28

This. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #31

...and who are we kidding? Trump will fuck up again. In It to Win It Feb 2020 #34

When you are fighting for the truth, it is always worth it Maeve Feb 2020 #29

ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #30

Absolutely! Ligyron Feb 2020 #32

Yep, well worth it. gulliver Feb 2020 #33

Yes. It was not only worth it but necessary. nt crickets Feb 2020 #36

Bookmark this thread SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #37

Absolutely. The electorate knows how morally corrupt the GOP is now. n/t Pobeka Feb 2020 #38

It had to be done Martin Eden Feb 2020 #40

The bare naked truth,.. magicarpet Feb 2020 #41

Absolutely n/t dajoki Feb 2020 #42

Hell YES! liberalla Feb 2020 #43

For sure, expose the Unamerican Senators BlueJac Feb 2020 #44

We had no choice. CanonRay Feb 2020 #45

For my faith in constitutional government, absolutely! Dave in VA Feb 2020 #46

They need to do it again. Call John Bolton. Lev Parnas. Now. zaj Feb 2020 #47

Yes, asap. Committee hearings. Bet a percentage of Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #61

Absolutely -- it would have been worse to do nothing. rocktivity Feb 2020 #48

Yes, of coarse it was, he is on historical record as being impeached though in a fascist state like yaesu Feb 2020 #49

It documented some of his crimes, should have been more. It was the right thing to do. Autumn Feb 2020 #50

Yes! Democracy dies in darkness. nolabear Feb 2020 #51

Yes...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #52

It was not only "worth it" it was absolutely necessary... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #54

YES!!!! hot2na Feb 2020 #55

The end was a foregone conclusion mcar Feb 2020 #56

It had to be done. I think it's made Trump almost invincible BUT... Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #57

Absolutely. Whether he was impeached or not, wnylib Feb 2020 #58

What an excellent speech! crickets Feb 2020 #97

When I get discouraged and fearful about wnylib Feb 2020 #110

In these words from that speech, Roosevelt wnylib Feb 2020 #112

That very quote jumped out at me. crickets Feb 2020 #115

These challenges are timeless. There wnylib Feb 2020 #133

Thanks for the link. wnylib Feb 2020 #134

Government by organized mob Cbarwitz Feb 2020 #142

Remarkable, isn't it? As if 7 decades had not passed wnylib Feb 2020 #147

YES SilasSouleII Feb 2020 #59

Yes. Game's not over, people. DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #60

Absolutely necessary. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2020 #62

Unequivocally worth it! Thanks to the entire Dem team - great job. nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #63

75% of polled Americans said the Senate should call witnesses robbob Feb 2020 #64

Yes it was the correct thing to do. No regrets. Now the dems need to keep their messaging loud, c-rational Feb 2020 #65

Yes! I think there is a possibility that he now might Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #66

Absolutely not Nasruddin Feb 2020 #79

Yes. It shows that we are on the right side of history and MF45 will always carry the smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #67

I say yes extvbroadcaster Feb 2020 #68

I'm on the fence. SylviaD Feb 2020 #69

If it wasn't Murcowski, it would have been KPN Feb 2020 #96

absolutely worth it gopiscrap Feb 2020 #70

TOtally worth it. rickyhall Feb 2020 #71

What was the alternative? Short term or long term it was unavoidable... Mars and Minerva Feb 2020 #72

YES YES YES YES we proved he was GUILTY and the GOP senators DON'T CARE. Cowards 1 and all. usaf-vet Feb 2020 #73

Shoeless Joe Jackson was acquitted erlewyne Feb 2020 #74

In my opinion, the second worst tactical thing the party has ever done The Mouth Feb 2020 #75

Mostly agree Nasruddin Feb 2020 #82

Couldn't Agree More RobinA Feb 2020 #135

Vengeance for Impeaching a Guilty President? Cbarwitz Feb 2020 #144

Yep The Mouth Feb 2020 #149

Probably not Nasruddin Feb 2020 #76

Yes, absolutely necessary and absolutely worth it. warmfeet Feb 2020 #77

YES! Me. Feb 2020 #78

Absolutely worth it! Trueblue Texan Feb 2020 #81

Yes. old guy Feb 2020 #84

Absolutely! It was a win win situation. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #85

YES, and impeach him again as new misdeeds are uncovered BernieBabies Feb 2020 #86

Yes, because everyone of the senators willingly practiced Trump scatophilia StTimofEdenRoc Feb 2020 #87

Definitely! H2O Man Feb 2020 #88

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2020 #89

Senate is in okay for 2020 now JCMach1 Feb 2020 #91

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. calimary Feb 2020 #92

This was NEVER an "end justifies the means" decision Mr. Ected Feb 2020 #93

Huh? Nasruddin Feb 2020 #121

Hearing Adam Schiff and the rest of the managers made me proud. katmondoo Feb 2020 #94

For those saying it was not worth it.... Traildogbob Feb 2020 #95

Ugh Stryst Feb 2020 #99

Yep! MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #100

Potentially. If the Democrats do not back down or waver on the message. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #101

It's an insult to the two other presidents who were impeached... Rollo Feb 2020 #102

They. are. on. record. nt Baltimike Feb 2020 #103

Absolutely had to be done, couldn't not do it. lark Feb 2020 #104

More than worth it. Harker Feb 2020 #105

Nothing says... MarianJack Feb 2020 #107

Only the 3rd President to be impeached. BUT could he become... Beartracks Feb 2020 #111

Yes! burrowowl Feb 2020 #108

Sure was! Magoo48 Feb 2020 #109

How about a message to your Republican senator(s)... TryLogic Feb 2020 #113

Hell yeah! krispos42 Feb 2020 #114

Impeachment was for the Democrats to EXPOSE the Republicans' COVER UP! panfluteman Feb 2020 #116

Yes. Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #117

NO progressiveradical Feb 2020 #118

Yes Tweedy Feb 2020 #119

Democratic Party Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #120

YES YES YES two reasons (of MANY) bluestarone Feb 2020 #123

Trump is a crook, he deserved to be impeached. Beacool Feb 2020 #125

Shows the world that most of the USA does not support or respect him. Well worth it !!! Prosper Feb 2020 #126

It Shoes The World RobinA Feb 2020 #136

Yes. Sometimes you just have to stand up and say something is wrong. meadowlander Feb 2020 #127

Yes Afromania Feb 2020 #128

Pose this question as a DU Poll. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #129

Sure was! OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 #130

YES! Remember HE WILL ALWAYS BE AN IM[EACHED PRESIDENT! That really ticks him off! napi21 Feb 2020 #131

Definitely worth it! Aussie105 Feb 2020 #132

It was an unpleasant thing musicblind Feb 2020 #137

Yes! It got the traitors on record. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #138

Yes....n/t bluecollar2 Feb 2020 #139

Yes, Yes and Yes RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2020 #140

I don't think a thing as serious as impeachment should be weighed on the... LudwigPastorius Feb 2020 #141

Yes. stage left Feb 2020 #143

There was no other choice. man4allcats Feb 2020 #145

GOP has shown they will do anything to win if they can get away with it. NCLefty Feb 2020 #146

We will find out in November. n/t whopis01 Feb 2020 #148