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PBC_Democrat

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20. What I'm saying is ...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:03 PM
Feb 2020

Is the message, So everything's cool? That that's just the way it is (so shut up)?

That's the compromise that got the founding fathers on board with the plan. It is what it is. We can spend
time and energy whining about it to like-minded people ...or we can get to work presenting our plans and
ideas to the residents of those states. If our ideas are better we will start winning their votes.

Are you one of the "That's just the way it is so it's fine and don't talk about it" folks? We do have our share with that outlook, I'll warrant.

it's neither fine or not fine ... it's a fact. Complaining at it on DU is preaching to the choir. If you sincerely
think it needs to be changed, there is a process for that.

Or are you saying you believe in the structure of the Senate as it exists... endorse it? support it?

I believe it's a fact of life. Doesn't matter if I love it, hate it, or something in between. The FF had know
way of knowing how the country would grow and change. They put together the best plan they could
come up with ... it's worked pretty well for 244 years.


I'll be more specific as to my point. It's that the Senate is an outrageously undemocratic institution... has been since it's tainted, ugly beginning, and has only gotten much, much worse since. And that not just the opposition party now abusing it should be condemned, but the very chamber itself should be, in any and every small way Americans are able to reject it, in toto.

It was NEVER meant to be democratic. Remember, we don't live in a democracy - we live in a democratic
republic. Voters don't make the decision on each issue, we elect people to do that for us. I believe we
have a better plan for America than they do ... we need to do better at communicating it to voters.

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There is a reason a bicameral legislature was called "The Great Compromise" Zolorp Feb 2020 #1
Yep. SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #9
I've found it interesting to consider how they only NEEDED all or almost... SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #27
You're making unsupported assumptions FBaggins Feb 2020 #28
Pennsylvania was the 2nd most populous state in 1790, NC was 3rd (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Feb 2020 #30
Now, Time To Be Fair (unlike our opponents) And Show The Reverse Analysis Of The Extreme Case SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #2
Rural white voters - whether Dems or Repubs - are the prime beneficiaries radius777 Feb 2020 #26
Unrec, trashing. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #3
fascinating & revealing reaction SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #14
A solution? DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #4
Easiest fix is to add states Drb2072 Feb 2020 #5
Making DC a state will almost certainly require a constitutional amendment Jake Stern Feb 2020 #7
But The Structural Disadvantage Against Democrats In The Senate Is Pronounced SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #6
These Grossly-Undemocratic-Senate Comparisons Can Be Done Almost Endless Numbers Of Ways SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #8
As has been pointed out many times here PBC_Democrat Feb 2020 #10
I think everybody here already knows that* so I'm not getting the point of your reply. SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #12
What I'm saying is ... PBC_Democrat Feb 2020 #20
The Senate confirms justices for SCOTUS, radius777 Feb 2020 #25
That's why they call it the tyranny of the minority. matt819 Feb 2020 #11
If it's the Republican Senate, just assume most Americans are being bulldozed over. SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #29
That is the way the Constitution was written. MicaelS Feb 2020 #13
I disagree with that. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #15
You're speaking very much for yourself there. Not for me, or for many others I know. SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #16
You maybe correct, but I am a cynic. MicaelS Feb 2020 #17
I agree we don't have ready ways out of problems that are becoming increasingly untenable. SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #18
If the situation were reversed, the Rs would be screaming about how unfair it was Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #21
using the same math, how over represented in the house is California and New York? Remington Feb 2020 #19
The reps in California represent more people Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #22
The business-as-usual, must-preserve-the-Founders'-1789-design fans SuprstitionAintthWay Feb 2020 #23
Many people here are still living by a river in Egypt. n/t Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #24
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