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Tweedy

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70. People went home

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:46 PM

Feb 2020

And the Iowa Democratic Party is trying to reach Them? Most definitely, Iowa dems want to be sure the posted results are right.

How do you properly test an app that goes live with a caucus like this, incidentally ?

Not a techie, but when I heard about this app last week, i couldn't figure out how they could properly live test this thing. You don't know in advance how many people will caucus, how fast they will finish, how many will be interacting with the app at once. Did everyone use the same device or were there multiple device interfaces?

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Iowa doesn't smell right [View all] angrychair Feb 2020 OP

"..and was untested and no end user had been trained .." 😮😮😮 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1

Unforgivable. Period. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2020 #4

+1, someone should've spoken up and told them deploy a production app for that many people in 2 ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7

That is certainly true fescuerescue Feb 2020 #57

Latest most informative post I have read...true or not?... jmg257 Feb 2020 #2

I get their point angrychair Feb 2020 #11

Agreed. This is the DNC post yesterday - "Three years to prepare..." jmg257 Feb 2020 #12

DNC didn't do it Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #30

Plus justie18 Feb 2020 #34

Some don't want facts, they just want a scapegoat still_one Feb 2020 #41

Apparently, Nevada is supposed to use the same APP! n/t aggiesal Feb 2020 #50

Great point - thanks! nt jmg257 Feb 2020 #77

IT professionals and cybersecurity people fescuerescue Feb 2020 #54

Reports can definitely be wrong w/o the underlying data being questionable ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #88

I get that angrychair Feb 2020 #95

democracy gets post-poned due to a coding issue. Javaman Feb 2020 #17

No, it doesn't. It's an end user issue. And our nation has gone through this before. ancianita Feb 2020 #39

why thank you for the obnoxious correction. Javaman Feb 2020 #91

You gave your opinion. I gave mine. Block away. ancianita Feb 2020 #93

Did the Russians hack the app? Is that why not all votes were counted? Perseus Feb 2020 #31

You ask and answer your own question. What is your point. ancianita Feb 2020 #40

Of course they have the best of intentions. defacto7 Feb 2020 #56

One mistake does not make the case for any other also-flawed system, though, does it. ancianita Feb 2020 #66

Yeah, that was my first thought. This is the work of Shorty Putin's goon squad. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #58

They fucked it up - not a real stretch to understand. They found the coding error jmg257 Feb 2020 #79

Allow me to play devils advocate Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #109

How many years of experience did the dev team have? woundedkarma Feb 2020 #32

If the data was recorded properly, ... Forever Blue Feb 2020 #75

Perhaps this belongs in primaries? cwydro Feb 2020 #3

You are probably smelling all those cows. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2020 #5

Lol angrychair Feb 2020 #9

And pigs. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #21

50 shades of brown Mendocino Feb 2020 #43

And a healthy GOP jayschool2013 Feb 2020 #51

Another reason to just have voting machines. Historic NY Feb 2020 #6

Oh yeah, voting machines. That oughtta do the trick... AllyCat Feb 2020 #64

Not all voting machines are crap. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #73

Ah, my bad. THAT kind of machine. AllyCat Feb 2020 #86

Oh, I agree 100%. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #108

2000 Election Rider3 Feb 2020 #8

You're absolutely right. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #10

I concur 100 percent. defacto7 Feb 2020 #46

You know, all we really needed was a drama free, unquestioned procedure from you Iowa. Arthur_Frain Feb 2020 #13

Exactly angrychair Feb 2020 #15

Caucusing isn't difficult, but it should have been phased out long ago. Arthur_Frain Feb 2020 #19

If they had tried. gibraltar72 Feb 2020 #14

Lack of situational awareness. moondust Feb 2020 #16

This clearly demonstrates the need for paper ballots. 33taw Feb 2020 #18

This times 1 million. Arthur_Frain Feb 2020 #20

This needs to be the narrative going forward. 33taw Feb 2020 #22

There is paper, everything is recorded on official forms Bettie Feb 2020 #59

Canada elects their federal government with hand counted paper ballots OnlinePoker Feb 2020 #67

They don't have to be hand counted, just auditable. 33taw Feb 2020 #90

Voting by an app is one of the dumbest ideas ever conceived. Initech Feb 2020 #23

Open-Source Software--You get what you pay for. Almost all not reviewed, and many done by hackers. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #24

That's just a hog confinement. marble falls Feb 2020 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author apcalc Feb 2020 #26

I believe the accounts receivable part of any business billing program could have handled the job. Prosper Feb 2020 #27

As an IT professional then...you know this kind of thing happens all the time... cbdo2007 Feb 2020 #28

More common Nasruddin Feb 2020 #33

See video games for many many examples of ruined releases due to bad launch. Brainfodder Feb 2020 #52

Not just games but games are a very visibile example fescuerescue Feb 2020 #68

I agree. Brainfodder Feb 2020 #80

absolute failure of preparation and training. Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #29

What did the DNC have to do with the decisions made by the IDP? W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #35

The DNC is many people's favorite whipping boy I guess. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #74

Sounds like more development time and testing went into "Angry Birds". patphil Feb 2020 #36

The same thing happened for the Romney campaign in 2012 bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #38

who exactly owns this software? China and Ivanka? bonniebgood Feb 2020 #37

HANLON'S RAZOR Roland99 Feb 2020 #42

Assume that everyone in power failed upward and they're too stupid to be a threat. FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #65

It will look great tonight when Iowa results displace SOTU bloviation bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #44

Well, there is that Bettie Feb 2020 #60

I smell Russia Botany Feb 2020 #45

I don't give a damn if Perez had nothing to do with this, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #47

Does Perez ever say anything? Bettie Feb 2020 #49

I do actually know what is going on Bettie Feb 2020 #48

Thank you!!! h2ebits Feb 2020 #71

XKCD: Voting Software TomVilmer Feb 2020 #53

This rules. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #62

... angrychair Feb 2020 #100

Does czarina own the license, patents or stock in this company? 2naSalit Feb 2020 #55

I keep going back to one word: Russia. calimary Feb 2020 #61

Iowa has had caucuses for decades without this problem IronLionZion Feb 2020 #63

Stock Market doesn't smell right either - up 497 points bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #69

There are puppetmasters pulling the strings and we are all being jerked around IronLionZion Feb 2020 #102

People went home Tweedy Feb 2020 #70

You have old data angrychair Feb 2020 #99

Patience Tweedy Feb 2020 #105

Shouldn't this be in the primaries forum? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Feb 2020 #76

Yeah. Usually when something doesn't smell right around election processes, ooky Feb 2020 #78

Yes indeed. TryLogic Feb 2020 #83

Agree. I don't understand is why the paper reports have not been tallied by now. Politicub Feb 2020 #81

It's all on paper angrychair Feb 2020 #98

"Voting by an app is one of the dumbest ideas ever conceived." TryLogic Feb 2020 #82

I've seen companies do equally stupid things Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #84

I agree but the good thing, MuseRider Feb 2020 #85

Has anyone in the Iowa Democratic Party thought, .... Forever Blue Feb 2020 #87

This is the result of Sanders constant attack on Democrats. As an IT man you are well aware of krissey Feb 2020 #89

This reminds me of the three rules of software development: Buns_of_Fire Feb 2020 #92

They Broke Every Rule DallasNE Feb 2020 #94

I suspect all kinds of stuff right now nini Feb 2020 #96

Caucuses are stupid. I used to live in Iowa and they are such a mess. My husband works nights so he Luciferous Feb 2020 #97

1976 was 44 years ago. earthside Feb 2020 #104

Everyone in the room knows the numbers. They can't change Pisces Feb 2020 #101

Bernie getting screwed again Remington Feb 2020 #103

"DNC needs to be investigated..." ehrnst Feb 2020 #106

Sorry angrychair Feb 2020 #107