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SheilaT

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13. It is very, very important to understand
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
Sep 2012

that neither candidates nor political parties deliberately set out to lose an election. Oh, I suppose that's happened once or twice in the entire history of elections, but trust me, as someone who has run for office and lost, you don't plan to lose, no matter how hopeless your particular race is.

And the common wisdom has been for many years now that the two parties are so evenly divided that (theoretically at least) any given presidential election can go either way. In reality, even though our elections are generally close once side or the other almost always has a sufficient lead as to be pretty certain of winning from some weeks or even months before the election.

There are exceptions, of course. The best one is that in 1991 no respectable Democrat was willing to put himself out there against George HW Bush in the aftermath of the first Gulf War. So a relatively unknown governor of a small southern state decided to take him on, and the rest is history.

Now, it would be true that pragmatists in the Republican party would be looking at the way this election year is shaping up and will start making plans for 2016. Discreetly. Pay attention to just how enthusiastically anyone who is remotely a contender for the '16 Republican nomination actually campaigns for the current ticket.

Another common wisdom is that the VP candidate on the losing side is automatically the front runner for the top spot four years down the road. That simply isn't true. Since 1960, one and only one losing VP candidate has gone on to win the presidency at a later date, and only one other losing VP candidate has gotten his party's nomination. Here are links to the lists of candidates for both parties:
Democrats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Democratic_Party_presidential_tickets
Republicans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Republican_Party_presidential_tickets

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They are so arrogant. IrishEyes Sep 2012 #1
I think it's more that their supporters are unquestioning renate Sep 2012 #2
I think, they think, they are doing a good job and will unleash russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #3
I think many moderate Republicans have left the party... AsahinaKimi Sep 2012 #4
They have collective dementia. randome Sep 2012 #5
I have been wondering the samething too. ArnoldLayne Sep 2012 #6
I Think They Know That They Are Going To Steal This Election..... global1 Sep 2012 #7
The Ryan-Romney austerity plan will collapse the economy! LongTomH Sep 2012 #19
this is a possibility riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #25
Not throwing it get the red out Sep 2012 #8
After Palin and now Romney, how could you possibly think they know what they are doing? randome Sep 2012 #9
Several things IDemo Sep 2012 #10
Concise and level-headed siligut Sep 2012 #30
You reap what you sew. trof Sep 2012 #36
I knew that IDemo Sep 2012 #37
Most Teabaggers and Fundamentalists are Zealots On the Road Sep 2012 #11
It very well could be a cliffhanger..... AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #27
They can't run the numbers on their own plan ... surrealAmerican Sep 2012 #12
It is very, very important to understand SheilaT Sep 2012 #13
Excellent research. randome Sep 2012 #14
I looked but can't find which losing VP candidate ever later won the presidency since 1960. treestar Sep 2012 #16
Richard Nixon. SheilaT Sep 2012 #23
Nixon won as a VP candidate Spirochete Sep 2012 #32
I got a little confused. SheilaT Sep 2012 #33
I agree Spirochete Sep 2012 #34
They believe they can lie and buy their way to the presidency. Lisa D Sep 2012 #15
in their bubble, where only fux gnews is on. pansypoo53219 Sep 2012 #17
I find myself wondering if this election cycle isn't a grand experiment justiceischeap Sep 2012 #18
Well Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #20
Throwing the election? Hutzpa Sep 2012 #21
It's the stupidity of arrogance. "We don't need fact-checkers." "We make our own reality." etc. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #22
They are both stupid and nucking futz hifiguy Sep 2012 #24
With sprinkles? randome Sep 2012 #39
They've been lying for decades - it's just that their crazies have... polichick Sep 2012 #26
Brazeness was a hallmark when the Neocon controlled the republican party. HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #28
Both HopeHoops Sep 2012 #29
The only issue/position they have left is racism. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #31
They figure they have enough dirty tricks in their bag to pull it off. lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #35
Think of a rich little prick kid who always thinks he can get his way... fascisthunter Sep 2012 #38
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