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51. it is not child abuse to teach tolerance and community

Fri Sep 7, 2012, 02:07 PM

Sep 2012

Do you see anyone on MSNBC calling for race hatred? Do you see anyone there calling for assassinations? Do you?

No.

And your last sentence is just wrong.

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Is continual exposure to hateful propaganda child abuse? [View all] grasswire Sep 2012 OP

I think so get the red out Sep 2012 #1

it's time to call it out grasswire Sep 2012 #5

With all the communist propaganda in my house, I'm inclined to say "no." Brickbat Sep 2012 #2

are you exposing children to calls for violence? grasswire Sep 2012 #8

Race hatred, no. But the Russian Revolution was, as you know, a violent one. Brickbat Sep 2012 #14

True. It took a particularly vigorous pillow fight 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #94

as the descendant of a dozen Revolutionary War soldiers and also of... grasswire Sep 2012 #105

No and it's ridiculous to suggest that it is. badtoworse Sep 2012 #3

+1 onenote Sep 2012 #4

who said anything about the GOVERNMENT? or any RESTRICTIONS? grasswire Sep 2012 #10

You did. The term "child abuse" connotes a heinous crime. slackmaster Sep 2012 #12

don't be ridiculous n/t grasswire Sep 2012 #16

Just who do you think enforces child welfare/abuse/neglect laws? WolverineDG Sep 2012 #71

who said anything about giving the government any such power?? grasswire Sep 2012 #106

In my experience, child abuse is generally considered a criminal act. badtoworse Sep 2012 #13

Well, I am not advocating government intervention. grasswire Sep 2012 #19

Sounds like a great idea badtoworse Sep 2012 #38

thank you for your thoughtful response. nt grasswire Sep 2012 #53

That 16 year old girl needs to SheilaT Sep 2012 #72

what does that even mean? what would constitute such a campaign? cali Sep 2012 #35

there are models for campaigns of enlightenment grasswire Sep 2012 #56

No quinnox Sep 2012 #6

I'll see your one word and raise you... Why not? n/t dogknob Sep 2012 #115

This is known as religion in the south. RagAss Sep 2012 #7

Wrong cordelia Sep 2012 #55

The only thing wrong about it is that it shouldn't have been limited to just the South Major Nikon Sep 2012 #90

What an interesting notion. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #9

who said anything about removing children??? grasswire Sep 2012 #15

That is where "child abuse" takes us, grasswire. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #17

I hoped to start a conversation. grasswire Sep 2012 #22

I don't think it helps us to include inflamatory language as we converse. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #45

this is how we counter it grasswire Sep 2012 #61

Are you suggesting that we've been silent? LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #64

it would be great to list some of those organizations here for us grasswire Sep 2012 #66

"the effect of hate propaganda on America's children" LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #69

I'm sorry -- are these sites activists for or against the issues? grasswire Sep 2012 #80

sincerely, I thank you for raising my consciousness... grasswire Sep 2012 #84

That is the razor's edge, isn't it? LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #86

no, no, no grasswire Sep 2012 #87

You know what, grasswire? LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #89

I'll be very frank here. grasswire Sep 2012 #99

Yes. It is time. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #108

Absolutely not. HappyMe Sep 2012 #11

no... and making the suggestion that it is hurts us all belcffub Sep 2012 #18

a discussion of hatred and ignorance is hardly anti-American grasswire Sep 2012 #21

suggesting that it is child abuse is belcffub Sep 2012 #25

is it child abuse? grasswire Sep 2012 #30

no belcffub Sep 2012 #31

....and I don't see any progressives calling for violence or hatred. grasswire Sep 2012 #24

you could not see a scenario belcffub Sep 2012 #26

having two mommies is legal grasswire Sep 2012 #32

that is not what your OP said belcffub Sep 2012 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #20

You cannot call it child abuse, given the laws connected to child abuse SheilaT Sep 2012 #23

I'm suggesting that we talk about it. grasswire Sep 2012 #27

Christianity MrBig Sep 2012 #34

then take the phrase "child abuse" out of the equation cali Sep 2012 #39

no, I won't do that. grasswire Sep 2012 #44

Agree that it sometimes takes a provocative opening but cali Sep 2012 #46

I don't see anyone responding in a negative way. grasswire Sep 2012 #83

Well, yes they could accuse liberals HappyMe Sep 2012 #43

we can do two things at the same time grasswire Sep 2012 #47

The problem is the use of the phrase "child abuse" MrBig Sep 2012 #28

okay, thank you grasswire Sep 2012 #42

It takes time MrBig Sep 2012 #49

yes, I agree grasswire Sep 2012 #67

uh. The SPLC has been talking about it and doing something about it for cali Sep 2012 #96

I wonder what the distribution of Teaching Tolerance is. grasswire Sep 2012 #109

the SPLC HAS been taking it on for years. cali Sep 2012 #116

Yes it is Politicalboi Sep 2012 #29

not in a legal sense. cali Sep 2012 #33

No, it's not child abuse at all kctim Sep 2012 #36

And just who determines the standard? Throd Sep 2012 #37

Child abuse as defined by the criminal law, absolutely NOT. Not in the child's best interest, kelly1mm Sep 2012 #41

WE decide. grasswire Sep 2012 #50

No, WE have no right to do that. HappyMe Sep 2012 #54

there were plenty of people who didn't think slavery was bad, too grasswire Sep 2012 #63

OK, you start. Go ahead and knock on the window of that car with Rush blaring with a kid kelly1mm Sep 2012 #60

I do not know why "advocacy" is confused with "intervention". grasswire Sep 2012 #65

No way.. Upton Sep 2012 #48

it is not child abuse to teach tolerance and community grasswire Sep 2012 #51

Different people have different perspectives Upton Sep 2012 #59

There IS a human, universal truth. grasswire Sep 2012 #62

"universal truth".. Upton Sep 2012 #70

no need to be snarky grasswire Sep 2012 #74

Christianity is psychologically very harmful. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #52

uh, not all denominations practice Christianity as you describe it. cali Sep 2012 #58

Exactly. cordelia Sep 2012 #73

I do know this. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #75

They still do, just to a lesser extent Major Nikon Sep 2012 #92

no, they don't. not all of them. cali Sep 2012 #97

OK, so "not all of them" translates to about 6-7% Major Nikon Sep 2012 #98

ALL Christians believe in Original Sin. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #110

Christianity is not any better or worse than any other religion Major Nikon Sep 2012 #112

Just Christianity? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #95

No Marrah_G Sep 2012 #57

I think "hateful propaganda" by Big Money corporations is probably related more to "marketing". Trillo Sep 2012 #68

No davidthegnome Sep 2012 #76

I don't agree that it has to start with the parents grasswire Sep 2012 #79

No, and if you go down this road, MadHound Sep 2012 #77

did you read the thread? grasswire Sep 2012 #78

Yes I read this thread, why? MadHound Sep 2012 #81

if you read the thread, you would find my answers to your objections. grasswire Sep 2012 #82

If you are not advocating government involvement, then drop the term child abuse, MadHound Sep 2012 #85

as I have stated in this thread... grasswire Sep 2012 #88

The term is not just provocative, MadHound Sep 2012 #91

I asked the question. grasswire Sep 2012 #101

I say that taking people's kids away based on their politics 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #93

read the thread, please grasswire Sep 2012 #102

Except using the phrase "child abuse" with its well understood 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #111

no, it's an important part of socialization BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #100

"and instilling a sense of national identity"? grasswire Sep 2012 #103

come on, i edited it out of my post BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #117

Kids old enough to understand are either in school or watching their own ileus Sep 2012 #104

where did that 16-year-old girl learn to suggest assassination of Obama? n/t grasswire Sep 2012 #107

Does free-speech protect blatant lies BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #113

"Only love can conquer hate..." - bhikkhu Sep 2012 #114

Who is the arbiter of deciding what is and is not hateful propaganda? etherealtruth Sep 2012 #118