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guillaumeb

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53. Indeed.

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Sun Feb 9, 2020, 05:47 PM

Feb 2020

One generation leading to another. And not one member of the family exhibits any trace of self-awareness or decency.

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What type of household was Trump raised in that he turned out so damaged? [View all] guillaumeb Feb 2020 OP

No MFM008 Feb 2020 #1

And so sad, to be cut off from normal emotions. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #2

I still remember a Keith Olbermann Resistance video about dewsgirl Feb 2020 #28

I'm so glad you posted this one. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #37

I miss him too, I followed him forever after the Resistance dewsgirl Feb 2020 #86

I bet his father talked like that treestar Feb 2020 #81

I loathe people that treat dogs like that.😔 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #83

Our dog died this year at age almost 16 y.o. at140 Feb 2020 #176

I am so sorry, I lost mine this year also. She was my best dewsgirl Feb 2020 #183

Oh, thank you for that clip! jls4561 Feb 2020 #96

Adorable story, I love dogs.❤ dewsgirl Feb 2020 #100

Lol MLAA Feb 2020 #204

Who was our last President who didn't have a pet? Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2020 #179

That's not entirely fair - Trump does in fact have two pets Berlin Expat Feb 2020 #191

They are more like well-trained livestock Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2020 #199

He was born Faux pas Feb 2020 #3

I think he was socialized/raised to be that way. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4

I think he Faux pas Feb 2020 #10

True, many with personality disorders were called trouble makers. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #13

Or CEOs, Captains of industry, leaders. lunatica Feb 2020 #46

Very true. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #52

so all the people who voted for him want to be like him bdamomma Feb 2020 #90

Yeah........... MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #82

I read that his parents "caught" him abusing small animals and that they trickyguy Feb 2020 #149

I believe everything Faux pas Feb 2020 #152

Ahhhhh....military school. SergeStorms Feb 2020 #181

You would think cadet bone spurs would never claim equal footing mercuryblues Feb 2020 #197

no. blaming the "parents" or "upbringing" stopdiggin Feb 2020 #29

I in no way seek to excuse Trump, or the choices he made. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #35

I agree........ MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #84

Nature or nuture? It's some of both but from what OregonBlue Feb 2020 #93

Why would she have the chauffer dress in a mink coat? VWolf Feb 2020 #133

Why were the quarters dressed in a mink coat? LisaM Feb 2020 #138

And greedy and clueless VWolf Feb 2020 #139

Too funny!! OregonBlue Feb 2020 #168

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #108

No. It's actually not. The family is a microcosm environment and has a profound effect Texin Feb 2020 #131

will acknowledge all of your very good information stopdiggin Feb 2020 #136

Absolutely! There's a whole 'nother set of issues he displays. Texin Feb 2020 #186

It isn't simple. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #208

At least one of his parents, probably his father, was probably also a malignant narcissist. pnwmom Feb 2020 #44

Melania Trump is her own, separate mass of pathologies. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #48

Maternal instincts??? bdamomma Feb 2020 #89

I told my hubby a couple weeks ago that Trump does not 42bambi Feb 2020 #122

I think you are both correct; it is both a hardware AND a software problem. King_Klonopin Feb 2020 #195

Thank you for the insights. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #200

I agree. His home life was probably not helpful 2naSalit Feb 2020 #30

I was raised in a houseful Faux pas Feb 2020 #130

I also think he was born that way. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #62

BINGO! MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #85

I grew up with abusive and neglectful parents Bettie Feb 2020 #94

yea team! Piasladic Feb 2020 #158

I was very lucky to have her Bettie Feb 2020 #167

Twins separated at birth who grow up to lead OregonBlue Feb 2020 #169

He does not have any empathy bdamomma Feb 2020 #104

Failure to evolve Faux pas Feb 2020 #129

he was psychologically damaged and then ginnyinWI Feb 2020 #147

Yea FP DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #173

There is no ONE thing. People are a complex combination of things. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #207

He's damaged because he's drug-addled or has a undiagnosed STD. Which I wouldn't be ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #5

That certainly describes much of what we see in Trump's actions. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #6

General paresis of the insane, perhaps? struggle4progress Feb 2020 #27

Can Xanax be snorted?????? DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #174

The problem is that there are no consequences. KatyaR Feb 2020 #7

And his damage affects the rest of us. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #8

No consequences for him, that is pandr32 Feb 2020 #80

All of us bdamomma Feb 2020 #98

A grandpa that sold women and girls. A father in the KKK. I dunno, how did the man krissey Feb 2020 #9

A history of family dysfunction? eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #14

Imagine the conversations in that house about women, girls and black. Dysfunction? krissey Feb 2020 #17

Indeed. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #18

I honestly believe that a big part of his pathology is genetic. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #65

Hostile rejecting father, alcoholic mother and brother Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #11

I do not know. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #15

His brother was an alcoholic kskiska Feb 2020 #32

Hmm.... bdamomma Feb 2020 #101

As I listen to his language PatSeg Feb 2020 #12

Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #16

He was probably told to man up or PatSeg Feb 2020 #23

and he turn bdamomma Feb 2020 #103

Unfortunately PatSeg Feb 2020 #110

I kind of think his defects start in the brain, BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2020 #190

Yes he does have bdamomma Feb 2020 #102

I certainly wouldn't make any PatSeg Feb 2020 #105

scary situation bdamomma Feb 2020 #118

Yes, I am truly scared PatSeg Feb 2020 #123

Plus insufficient accountability. moondust Feb 2020 #19

I've wondered about this for a long time. MoonRiver Feb 2020 #20

Exactly. Probably a genetic predisposition reinforced by terrible family. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #24

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. MoonRiver Feb 2020 #66

Self-centered, shallow, pretentious, regimented klook Feb 2020 #21

wow it was inbred bdamomma Feb 2020 #109

Yeah, makes me appreciate anew klook Feb 2020 #116

An article on what he was like as a child CentralMass Feb 2020 #22

I read that when he was a kid, he threw rocks at a baby... Dave Starsky Feb 2020 #25

thank you. all kinds of people have very unfortunate childhoods stopdiggin Feb 2020 #31

He does things for laughs??? bdamomma Feb 2020 #112

Or for a laugh. CentralMass Feb 2020 #26

maybe bullied in military school? Demovictory9 Feb 2020 #33

He was the bully from what I've read. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #114

Good question! FM123 Feb 2020 #34

He was treated harshly and not given much affection. Desert grandma Feb 2020 #36

Jr was the son involved in that incident DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #180

Does anyone else find it ironic that he never talks about his family? llmart Feb 2020 #38

He is very damaged. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #40

You're right. llmart Feb 2020 #42

Very damaged. bdamomma Feb 2020 #113

In N.Korea, Kim followed Kim. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #119

Both Hitler and Stalin Berlin Expat Feb 2020 #193

He tells everyone his father only gave him a million dollars lunatica Feb 2020 #63

"Only" a million. llmart Feb 2020 #74

and he pissed bdamomma Feb 2020 #115

Mary Trump: Mariana Feb 2020 #39

I see where Trump inherited his hair. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #41

Oh man, is this a Norman Bates situation? nuxvomica Feb 2020 #45

Mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Feb 2020 #49

LOL - It sure ain't Norman Rockwell! Totally Tunsie Feb 2020 #182

I believe you meant inhairited. dchill Feb 2020 #127

Trump's "inhairitance" seesm to have decreased. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #155

Doesn't she just look like the mother you just want to cuddle up to? llmart Feb 2020 #43

Every time I see that image, it reminds me of the movie, Mars Attacks! TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #175

LOL - reminds me of the guy in "From Beyond." klook Feb 2020 #177

No matter how he was raised, TNNurse Feb 2020 #47

I feel bad for the small boy he was. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #51

I think sociopaths and psychopaths are pretty much not able to change womanofthehills Feb 2020 #95

Exactly. He has had every advantage handed to him in life and could have become smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #106

smirky bdamomma Feb 2020 #117

Same here 47of74 Feb 2020 #184

Look at Jr.! bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #50

Indeed. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #53

The same family that damaged his father and grandfather!! Sancho Feb 2020 #54

Genetics? And as another poster noted, his children are also guillaumeb Feb 2020 #55

I don't think he feels anything except anger. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2020 #56

Imagine the physical effects of living in a constant state of anger. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #58

I don't know how he has survived this long. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2020 #67

I keep on bdamomma Feb 2020 #120

he was never taught American values in the home. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #57

Congratulations on being a survivor. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #61

There is said to be a "discard" phase when the narcissist takes steps to shed people.. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #68

So the narcissist requires comstant flattery. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #70

absolutely Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #97

Thta would certainly explain Trump's behavior, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #99

Would you explain more about the "third phase", please? dmr Feb 2020 #198

I read somewhere rickyhall Feb 2020 #59

I suspect fetal alcohol syndrome randr Feb 2020 #71

I know some people who suffered FAS but they don't seem like him. rickyhall Feb 2020 #75

My folks adopted a baby with FAS. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #111

Look at the shape of his eyes. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #107

Was his mother an alcoholic? shanti Feb 2020 #144

I don't know, but she could have been a closet alcoholic. Sounds like her husband didn't smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #148

I read similar info Kitchari Feb 2020 #73

His sister says that he was called Donny Dimwit vlyons Feb 2020 #60

Hate and anger are corrosive. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #64

After reading all these posts bdamomma Feb 2020 #121

The media and the GOP covered for Reagan. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #153

Far from any abuse as some see alphafemale Feb 2020 #69

Or, he told himself that he is/was the greatest. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #72

Lots of things... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2020 #76

The same kind as many republicans all over America, where... WyattKansas Feb 2020 #77

Who cares? thegoose Feb 2020 #78

I don't care if his father beat him 5 times a day and his mother fed him dog shit dalton99a Feb 2020 #79

I understand that view. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #91

Any Mental Health workers among us? bdamomma Feb 2020 #87

And even the non-professionals among us, including me, can see how guillaumeb Feb 2020 #92

Reportedly, both parents were minimally involved. Servants, who wanted to empedocles Feb 2020 #88

He's a sociopath and he was mostly likely born that way. BlueStater Feb 2020 #124

He wasn't the first born or the youngest TexasBushwhacker Feb 2020 #125

The thing that mystifies me is his extreme narcissism and the very low profile his siblings keep. tanyev Feb 2020 #126

That is actually very telling shanti Feb 2020 #145

And Trump has zero sense of humor Zambero Feb 2020 #128

True, he has no sense of humor, or sense of self. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #156

Look no further than Roy Cohn who became no_hypocrisy Feb 2020 #132

His story... Rider3 Feb 2020 #134

Money and no class malaise Feb 2020 #135

Read somewhere that even his mother Dan Feb 2020 #137

As far as I am concerned he did it all on his own. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #140

Born stupid and mean mahina Feb 2020 #141

Read Noel Casler's Twitter feed coeur_de_lion Feb 2020 #142

Roy Cohn paparush Feb 2020 #143

untreated personality disorders extvbroadcaster Feb 2020 #146

He's a textbook narcissist.... Heartstrings Feb 2020 #150

When Donald was young, did a Hispanic housemaid once tell him "NO!"? tclambert Feb 2020 #151

Criminal parents, criminal spawn, just be glad the ones front and center are all incompetent fools? Brainfodder Feb 2020 #154

Many of them only value power. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #159

YUP, selfish and with tiny world views. Brainfodder Feb 2020 #161

They share that with their hero. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #162

He's the second son. He was not supposed to be the heir apparent. His older brother was. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #157

This is pretty well done and factual The Mouth Feb 2020 #160

The photo belongs in a horror movie. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #163

No one would believe it if it hadn't have happened The Mouth Feb 2020 #171

trump's father was the sociopath. trump wanted to love his mother, the maid Miigwech Feb 2020 #164

Good points. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #165

I'm sure the household soldierant Feb 2020 #166

Fred Trump was such a piece of shit, Woody Guthrie wrote a song about him. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #170

That is interesting. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #172

It seems not, unfortunately. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #185

Obviously one with no love DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #178

Well said. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #188

What type of home are his followers raised in? FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #187

In a country that is almost always at war, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #189

What does Trump even mean when he says something is "beautiful"? Withywindle Feb 2020 #192

In my view, Trump sees himself and his needs as beautiful. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #201

A reason is not the same as an excuse. Collimator Feb 2020 #194

Agreed in full. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #205

I'm sure it was a violent and awful one Dorian Gray Feb 2020 #196

Hard to say. It doesn't seem to have been normal, but The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #202

And wealthy people are generally excused for their sociopathy. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #206

As long as they're not actually killing people directly, generally that's true. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #209

True. As to killing, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #210

Scarier thought is why does any christian think this amoral pig is a good leader and man... Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #203