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mr_lebowski

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52. When you apply for a passport, much more rigorous checks of your citizenship are applied ...

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:58 PM

Feb 2020

Versus those that are required when you order yourself a Social Security card.

Again, I'm not arguing with you about what the rules ARE, only that they are ridiculous as they stand.

Your passport PROVES both your citizenship and your identity ... better than ANY other thing you could provide. Period.

Again, a RealID grants you LESS privileges than a Passport, they are a wholly contained subset of what a Passport grants you.

If you can get on any plane you want, and enter any government building with a passport ... what is the LOGIC behind requiring a SS card to get a RealID ... when you already have a passport?

Methinks it's not really for 'security' ... but rather for suppressing votes.

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You Need A Real-ID Or Passport For Domestic Flights Starting Oct. 1, 2020 [View all] babylonsister Feb 2020 OP

Should not be a big deal brokephibroke Feb 2020 #1

I had no idea until I read this. nt babylonsister Feb 2020 #2

It's been posted at airport check points for years brokephibroke Feb 2020 #6

Haven't traveled much in a few babylonsister Feb 2020 #19

If your last name on your birth certificate is different now... FarPoint Feb 2020 #47

I was married but babylonsister Feb 2020 #55

not all. AllaN01Bear Feb 2020 #4

In AZ you need an original/certified copy of your Birth Certificate and original SS card ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #8

In Washington it's thinkingagain Feb 2020 #27

I didn't meant these two things are all you need, those are just a couple things mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #33

I understand Sorry I came off wrong. It's kinda crazy everything they need thinkingagain Feb 2020 #40

very easy to get SS card Skittles Feb 2020 #30

I had the card that my SS card detached from- Alliepoo Feb 2020 #57

A lot of people don't nuxvomica Feb 2020 #11

It was a royal pain for me - Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #20

Are there any states that currently require a RealID to vote? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #36

That is essentially what the law Republicans have been trying to pass require. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #45

Yes, well said Blues Heron Feb 2020 #41

I renewed my Florida driver's license twice while Real ID was in effect, but it still rzemanfl Feb 2020 #24

At least there is time. brokephibroke Feb 2020 #28

My certified copy of my birth certificate is 61 years old and looks it. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #31

Your old certified birth certificate might no longer be acceptable. jberryhill Feb 2020 #56

Well, fuck. If mine ever had a raised seal, it doesn't anymore. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #59

Yeah, after 61 years things don't always stick up like they used to jberryhill Feb 2020 #61

Places to put them are harder to find as well. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #62

And that started happening a while after getting that marriage certificate! jberryhill Feb 2020 #63

Also, thank you. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #60

so, if i want to see my ssi counsler i need a passport? i hope someone challenges this AllaN01Bear Feb 2020 #3

You may already have the right id brokephibroke Feb 2020 #5

If your license has a gold star on it you're good (yeah, kinda funny really) nt mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #12

I had to provide True Blue American Feb 2020 #9

Secured Federal Gov't building to be specific ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #14

Just got mine this week Zeus69 Feb 2020 #7

Valid US passport and two documents should've been enough ... (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #10

Would've thought Zeus69 Feb 2020 #15

Really? WOW ... I guess probably all states do then ... that's silly ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #16

I haven't had a ss card in decades brokephibroke Feb 2020 #17

Maybe req to show an SSN was added after you got yours ... they've been available in many states mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #22

Passport does not prove social security number. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #23

I just ordered a new ss card on line brokephibroke Feb 2020 #25

I still have the first one I got 50 years ago. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #34

I will lose anything brokephibroke Feb 2020 #37

You can do everything with the passport that you can with the RealID ... and more ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #26

I'll let you argue with the state of Ohio, then. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #32

I'm not saying you're wrong about what's required, I'm saying it's ridiculous ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #39

I had to show an actual ss card to get my passport last time Blues Heron Feb 2020 #46

You definitely don't have to anymore I just ordered mine a little bit ago ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #48

Cool, mine was a while back maybe nine years Blues Heron Feb 2020 #50

If they did issue a real ID based on passport, Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #49

When you apply for a passport, much more rigorous checks of your citizenship are applied ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #52

I agree as to their motives n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #54

Got mine last year shanti Feb 2020 #13

It can be expensive and frustrating for those people who haven't Backseat Driver Feb 2020 #18

I would also point out that if you don't want one cause you don't fly often, there's a loophole ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #21

I had all the documentation to get a real id... forgotmylogin Feb 2020 #29

Easy to get a new card. dhol82 Feb 2020 #38

Thanks for the advice! (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2020 #64

Get a passport card, it's $30 plus whatever the acceptance facility charges mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #43

Thanks for the advice! (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2020 #65

My husband and I went in together. MuseRider Feb 2020 #35

If you're over 18. Igel Feb 2020 #42

I am genuinely outraged that we have to show a Social Security card PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #44

California says a W-2 is okay for SS number musette_sf Feb 2020 #58

My point is that a SSN was NEVER intended to be used for ID. Period. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #66

I think a valid passport should supersede all the other requirements musette_sf Feb 2020 #67

Actually, the last time I looked at the Real ID requirements for my state, NM, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #68

Worst case: They have a process for people who don't have an ID, e.g. lost wallet dalton99a Feb 2020 #51

I have to renew my license in June and already gathered the required paperwork Siwsan Feb 2020 #53