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Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
31. I'm pleasantly surprised at the replies in this thread.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020

Several years ago, there was an account in the news about a construction worker who walked into an ER to get a gash on his forehead stitched up. After he was stitched up, he was told that they were going to do a rectal exam on him, which he refused to consent to. After he told them "no", they proceeded to attempt a forced rectal exam on him. He struggled and attempted to fight them off, and the next thing he knew, he woke up handcuffed to a hospital bed with a breathing tube down his trachea, the rectal exam having been done, and himself facing assault charges.

This story made it to DU, and I expressed the opinion that the medical team in question had effectively raped and sodomized this man. I received a barrage of attacks for expressing this opinion. The overwhelming opinion expressed on the thread(s) (I think there were more than one), was that the medical team had been entirely within their rights to force a rectal exam on this man, and that he had completely forfeited his right to refuse any procedure the instant that he signed the general consent form upon entering the ER.

I can recall that the story made a huge impression on me at the time, and the reaction on DU made an even bigger one.

I am very glad that the consensus on DU seems to be evolving towards a view that invasive, sensitive examinations should not be done against a patient's will, or without their consent.

WTF? Kali Feb 2020 #1
WTF indeed. do guys geheir prostae checked? bet not. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #12
This is awful. Aristus Feb 2020 #2
This is appalling. I had no idea this was happening. yardwork Feb 2020 #3
I would say no to a pap smear while unconscious. An absolute, definitive no. krissey Feb 2020 #4
My gods. We really are just things to too many men with power over us. Things. Objects. Hekate Feb 2020 #5
This is totally true... yuiyoshida Feb 2020 #26
When I was in the ICU central scrutinizer Feb 2020 #46
What century are we in? This is unbelievably outrageous! scarletwoman Feb 2020 #6
and men complain about a finger Skittles Feb 2020 #7
Why would anyone have to tell her she was cyclonefence Feb 2020 #8
wondering stage left Feb 2020 #9
+1 2naSalit Feb 2020 #19
I don't know. However, see this post. Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #34
Horrible bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #10
Add to this: many pelvic exams are unnecessary. mwooldri Feb 2020 #11
The guidelines have changed for certain women in other age groups also. llmart Feb 2020 #20
This is just one small part of why I would never, given a choice, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #13
Sometimes you have no choice yuiyoshida Feb 2020 #28
Lucky me, I'm an hour or so drive from the nearest teaching hospital. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #33
Growth of Catholic hospitals... alwaysinasnit Feb 2020 #14
My very first job was as an aide in a Catholic Hospital. I would never recommend a woman going appleannie1 Feb 2020 #21
Agreed, but they seem to be taking over most of the hospitals so women are going to be alwaysinasnit Feb 2020 #30
Good lord. ploppy Feb 2020 #15
Even if you are in a teaching hospital, you should be notified that TNNurse Feb 2020 #16
Well I have to say, xyoungblood Feb 2020 #17
You should find out if it's a teaching hospital you're at. Igel Feb 2020 #23
Im having surgery soon and going to ask about this backtoblue Feb 2020 #18
This is unacceptable. Hope she sues for malpractice. nt iluvtennis Feb 2020 #22
17 years ago I went to an Ob-Gyn. Delmette2.0 Feb 2020 #24
"many U.S. states & medical institutions, physicians are not required to obtain explicit consent" redqueen Feb 2020 #25
When I complained of treatment at a university hospital... LakeArenal Feb 2020 #27
Sounds like an assault to me. TomSlick Feb 2020 #29
I'm pleasantly surprised at the replies in this thread. Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #31
I don't recall that story, but I would not have said it was okay PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #35
He lost his lawsuit, but the assault charges against him were dropped. Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #39
Actually, I've been here since about 2002, just under a different screen name. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #40
Oh, sorry. Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #42
You have no way of knowing. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #44
This sounds equally like a violation, my God wth is wrong with dewsgirl Feb 2020 #38
I'm glad this is still getting attention. Quackers Feb 2020 #32
This is unacceptable Niagara Feb 2020 #36
This had to feel like a rape, definitely a violation. I would also dewsgirl Feb 2020 #37
Surgical teams are different from normal doctors as we know them Azathoth Feb 2020 #41
This conduct is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!! TruckFump Feb 2020 #43
Rape. Pure and simple. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #45
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